Sub tokens in Trade

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Sub tokens in Trade

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It's the worst thing to ever be added to this game.
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+1 wanted to bring this up when I first saw this thread. It's not something devs can do reallyanything about without removing tokens (probably) but it for sure ruins a lot of the spirit of trade
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By his logic 1$ is worth 10 points which equals to 1 flotsam or 1 bluebell in his trade..
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ninja_yodeler wrote:+1 wanted to bring this up when I first saw this thread. It's not something devs can do reallyanything about without removing tokens (probably) but it for sure ruins a lot of the spirit of trade
Isn't the whole idea of the token to be traded? We can discuss if it's good or bad, but not that the guy in question is using the subtoken "wrong".
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Colin500 wrote:By his logic 1$ is worth 10 points which equals to 1 flotsam or 1 bluebell in his trade..
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It is not a bad thing to add token , you can use real value to set price in game for goods if its done correctly of course . Problem is traders going to destroy their incentive in longer period like selling table etc .. and selling goods like money grab , like example A .
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Hrenli wrote:
ninja_yodeler wrote:+1 wanted to bring this up when I first saw this thread. It's not something devs can do really anything about without removing tokens (probably) but it for sure ruins a lot of the spirit of trade
Isn't the whole idea of the token to be traded? We can discuss if it's good or bad, but not that the guy in question is using the subtoken "wrong".
You're not wrong, but I think the spirit with which it was intended was to buy a sub for someone you were showing the game to, or just a friend in game. Putting them into the economy of the game in trade villages like this guy is setting up? That's just a terrible idea for a myriad of reasons. First and foremost being there will effectively an ingame-item cash shop. And when the trend catches on it just gets worse. Aren't people already complaining about it being too P2W?
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Re: Sub tokens in Trade

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ninja_yodeler wrote:I think the spirit with which it was intended was to buy a sub for someone you were showing the game to, or just a friend in game.
Well, I don't know where you got that idea. :) Tokens aren't invented in this game and everywhere they are intended as a trade commodity. Why HnH would be different?

Damn, you almost lured me into this "paying for someone else sub as a trade" discussion. :) Going to stop here. I don't know why Kaios decided to bring it up once again though he already did many times before...
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Kaios wrote:It's the worst thing to ever be added to this game.
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Subtoken - 100 pts
I agree

Problem is that now people only want tokens. :roll:

So trade for big-value items is nonexistant. (except if payment is tokens)
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I'm with Kaios on this one, I've given my reasons plenty of times before so not going to do so again but +1 Kaios.
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