Sub tokens in Trade

[Hrenli]

Problem is that now people only want tokens.

So trade for big-value items is nonexistant. (except if payment is tokens)

Well, I can't say I am a big fun of the tokens either, but I don't see them as a big trouble. For now I see only one trader and he accepts perls/curios too, not just tokens. So, what's the problem? Are tokens as big of a problem as "retarded hunting" or what?

[VDZ]

Well, at least the things you can buy are limited (no way to directly improve your character, only goods) and can all be gained without spending cash. I also dislike the sub tokens, but it's far too late to remove it now (unless it's something like subtokens being taken out of the shop but remaining in the game for those who bought them).

[newaccountlol]

Everyone agrees trading subtokens is total bullshit and I am confident the devs will do something about it

[Kaios]

Everyone agrees trading subtokens is total bullshit and I am confident the devs will do something about it

I bet it's also their biggest money maker tho so I'm not confident they'll do anything at all

[Hrenli]

Everyone agrees

How nice of you to make that decision for all of us.

[infectedking]

Everyone agrees trading subtokens is total bullshit and I am confident the devs will do something about it

I bet it's also their biggest money maker tho so I'm not confident they'll do anything at all

probably was since how much tokens got sold to/in sevilla tbh. that's why I didn't do much token trades, kinda destroys trading items since people just play with credit cards.

[azrid]

I think its great.

[Kaios]

I think its great.

It isn't but I'm sure on this much, it's one of the only "cheese methods" available for by-passing a large amount of game content that the devs aren't likely to attempt at fixing

[Ysh]

Sub token is literally buy in-game currency. This is intent of item. I think sub token is necessary evil in game. Without sub token, there will still be real money trades as you can see gold sales in other MMO. Obvious with tokens, this becomes endorsed and more common in a relative sense, which is maybe argument. But in boolean sense, fact remains that ''player can buy game item with money'' will always be true in any game with tradable items. Since eliminating this unfortunate reality is impossible, next best strategy is to embrace and profit from it. Sub token is basically jorb and loftar tax on people who do real money trade.

Quote myself from other thread.

If there is issue that high end player only deal in sub token, I think this can be attack by angle other than remove sub token. If sub token is all that a low end player can provide for the high end player, the high end player will demand token. Adding more item that low end player can get that high end player can value could reduce the prevalence of sub token.

[Kaios]

I disagree with the sentiment that real money trades would take place anyways. I mentioned it before but previous to the existence of sub tokens, real money trades weren't allowed to be advertised on the forum.

So if you had a guy saying "I'm selling X quality pick for 6 pearls" and then when you add him on skype that guy says "actually I'll also take $10 from you for it" then that guy comes off as a big piece of shit and you probably aren't going to trade with him again if all he wants is real money out of the arrangement.

Yes, real money trades did and do happen but certainly not on any grandiose scale except when some players would occasionally buy a character or two, which is still technically account sharing and still not recommended by the devs as its something they look poorly upon.

This game has the means for players to enact their own item for item or item for coin trade systems so having a buyable in-game currency entirely defeats the purpose of these mechanics.