Sub tokens in Trade

[Fratari]

I personally don't see the problem with sub tokens in trade. If you look at the prices for buying and selling, they haven't changed significantly with the introduction of sub tokens. The tokens aren't worth so much more than in game items that they the only things worth trading with. In fact the sub tokens are priced such that they really aren't worth it for the most part.

With that said, if someone wants to pay real money for progress, let them. Especially since they aren't getting any advantage that someone else doesn't already have.

[Kaios]

If there was just one world without them in the new Hafen era then you would see the difference once again.

With that said, if someone wants to pay real money for progress, let them. Especially since they aren't getting any advantage that someone else doesn't already have.

The same approach could have been taken back then too and in fact I'm sure it was. Yet now we have an intrusive RMT system implemented right in to the game and the ONLY good reason I've heard for it so far is that the devs make money from it which is indeed the only positive thing it brings.

[Fratari]

I've been around since world 2. Sub tokens have not significantly changed the buying power of in game items.
And how is the system so intrusive?

[Kaios]

I've been around since world 2. Sub tokens have not significantly changed the buying power of in game items.

bro I look at the join date before I respond, I didn't say anything I didn't mean to

[shubla]

I've been around since world 2. Sub tokens have not significantly changed the buying power of in game items.
And how is the system so intrusive?

nullsiht"!

[sMartins]

And please spare me the "but people will do it anyways", jordan and ladygoo need to fuck off with the legacy RMT shit because you still aren't supposed to be sharing accounts or trading characters you morons or did you forget what the devs mentioned about that? So big deal if you can trade characters with tokens more safely because you really weren't supposed to be doing that in the first place.

I know all of that...but there is no solution, so again to relieve the all thing ST are the best thing we can do.
And it's not only cause they bring money to devs, but also cause it's a thing you can do while playing the game, affected by the rules of the game.....much better than a thing outside off the game.

[jordancoles]

dumb cunt

I don't have to provide suggestions... Jorb can cry all he wants about "reasonable suggestions" or "valid arguments"

...not that they listen anyways.

You are such an idiot and you're getting worse with time.
Painhertz has become a calm and respectable character these days and it appears that you've taken his original position.

Retard are you and do not shut me

[Kaios]

dumb cunt

I don't have to provide suggestions... Jorb can cry all he wants about "reasonable suggestions" or "valid arguments"

...not that they listen anyways.

You are an such idiot and you're getting worse with time.
Painhertz has become a calm and respectable character these days and it appears that you've taken his original position.

Retard are you and do not shut me

My point was that in the stream he mentioned players should be creating threads like ladygoo but that's a load of shit and u know it. Even they can see the issues that sub tokens bring sometimes they just need a little nudge in the right direction. Why is it up to a player to be the one to give them the solutions? If I had the perfect way to solve all the problems then I'd be happy to provide that information but unfortunately I don't.

[Undefined]

My, you do go on.

[NotJimmy97]

Kaios doesn't need to provide valid suggestions, because the solution is right in front of our eyes: let's just ban everyone that does something objectionable to Kaios. Actually changing the game mechanics and payment model requires a lot of thinking, and thinking gives people headaches. Banning everyone is so much easier.