Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeaker

[Granger]

Possible solution (that is somewhat understandable to the players) for the issue with bypassing claim shield by a villager inside the party:

As only rights that the character actually has can be bled into the party, just make the ability to bypass the shield by siege engines being a sole property of the lawspeaker (in his role of him being the claim 'owner'). Then a lawspeaker could party up with people to enable them to do such things, but a simple villager can't - so the mechanic stays similar enough to personal claims to avoid confusion while removing these exploits.

Given the contents of the video in the thread I linked, this should imho also apply to changing locks (only abused for griefing anyway).

[Avu]

If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.

[jordancoles]

If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.

Wreckingballs exist for this

[pedorlee]

If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.

Wreckingballs exist for this

Then you would simply use inside rats and destroy the whole village.

[jordancoles]

If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.

Wreckingballs exist for this

Then you would simply use inside rats and destroy the whole village.

Wat

[Fierce_Deity]

Hes calling you a rat, and suggesting you would use a wrecking ball to smack down the walls instead.
Anyways +1 to increased village controls and party limitations.
Posted this somewhere else.

Sharing claim rights with a party requires a new check box to be marked on the village management screen. So that nonvillage members cannot party outsiders in most cases. In addition to this, using siege such as catapults should not bypass shields for village members or partied members. Another permission for siege within village could be added. Would help solve a lot of this partying bullshit.

Sharing rights with the party is convenient sometimes, but its not something you want every villager to have access to. More village management options please.

[APXEOLOG]

I don't see any issue. Don't give people vandalism rights and everything will be fine. Vandalism areas can be covered with pclaims or field cairns with specific rights

Insiders and spies always was a feature of this game, noone cared about it in good old W3-W6 times. Until someone "big" got raided by this. Classical H&H community

[LadyGoo]

Insiders and spies always was a feature of this game, noone cared about it in good old W3-W6 times. Until someone "big" got raided by this. Classical H&H community

Same thing happened to Aramore last world. I wonder what has changed this time, btw.

[Kirche]

It is so predicable that the people who would abuse such a mechanic are also the people who would defend its existence

[jordancoles]

It is so predicable that the people who would abuse such a mechanic are also the people who would defend its existence

Nah, I'd like it fixed tbh lol
It is pretty obviously broken

The counter is a plot-based village using pclaims, but I get that not everyone wants to play that way