WW3 inbounddd

[dageir]

Finland would actually benefit from nuclear holocaust.

[Mateusz_Zboj]

Internet serious business

[shubla]

Finland would actually benefit from nuclear holocaust.

we hav lot of rock in our ground

we can make shelters

and sell them to rich american

[Jalpha]

You can't eat rocks friend.

[viznew]

a Friend of mine has a grow house underground no sunlightever reaches he has grown potatos carrots cabbage and more no big issues .. so its possible, and to make soil is not too hard crushed rocj organic materials and a bit of waiting

[Jalpha]

How does he get the light down there?

[viznew]

my friendjusr plugs in lights loo but whouldneed some preparedness​ in survival situation for it to work (looting)

[Jalpha]

He'd need more that that. The fuel supplies wouldn't last long. Most generators require petroleum fuels and the ones that don't need gas or woodchips. Solar wouldn't be viable because nuclear winter.

I doubt anyone would be able to stockpile enough energy to keep themselves alive by growing stuff let alone them and anybody else.

[viznew]

alcohol/geothermal

[Jalpha]

Sure geothermal is great if you have access to it, not sure what area you're in but in this kind of situation I can pretty much guarantee that any government with access to geothermal will be keeping it to themselves "for the benefit of the majority". Alcohol faces the same problems as any other fuel source. It's going to consume more energy to produce it in an underground bunker than what you would get back out of it. Methanol can be produced through a process involving the breakdown of lignous materials iirc but it's still going to suffer from the same problem of net energy loss. Grow lights are not very efficient, particularly the ones which give good results.