Salvaging

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Re: Salvaging

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Granger wrote:
DreadDawson wrote:One issue I can think of would be variable inputs,

What type of log does it give you?
What type of plank?
Which soft nugget?
Which hard nugget?
Which hard bar?
Which soft bar?
q10
Yes, but, I'm not talking about quality. When you salvage something that uses a block, does it give you pine or birch, or what?
Same with all of the different variable inputs.
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Re: Salvaging

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DreadDawson wrote:Yes, but, I'm not talking about quality. When you salvage something that uses a block, does it give you pine or birch, or what?
Same with all of the different variable inputs.
Sorry, didn't get that.

Variable stuff has the info about the material, at least the one with the highest quantitiy.
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Re: Salvaging

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Granger wrote:
DreadDawson wrote:Yes, but, I'm not talking about quality. When you salvage something that uses a block, does it give you pine or birch, or what?
Same with all of the different variable inputs.
Sorry, didn't get that.

Variable stuff has the info about the material, at least the one with the highest quantitiy.
Ah, well if that's already the case and it isn't going to distract Loftar from other things (seasons) then sure, +1

For some reason, I thought that it only recorded those values for buildings, but I'm no programmer, so I don't know.
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Re: Salvaging

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DreadDawson wrote:For some reason, I thought that it only recorded those values for buildings, but I'm no programmer, so I don't know.
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Re: Salvaging

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jorb wrote:That has been suggested plenty of times for buildings. There are two problems.
  • Setting and maintaining payouts in terms of what items are salvaged from a particular item. Could perhaps re-use cost-to-craft values, but that won't always produce meaningful or desired results.
  • Deciding qualities on the recovered items. We currently do not save -- nor do we wish to -- the exact list of all items used to produce an item, but rather only the final product and its qualities. Using the final quality as the output quality for salvage would, however, lead to a situation where you can grind the qualities of certain inputs upwards by crafting and salvaging, which is undesirable. Setting everything recovered to Q10 is perhaps an option.
Not saying it can't be done, but it'd be work, at least.
I think it's worth implementing even if its q10 recovered, although a way to get the original quality would be optimal..
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Re: Salvaging

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What if instead of a typical salvaging system, we were able to make a variable curiosity based on the base materials that go into the item used. I mean it would need to use an arbitrary value system, however could be fun to see how powerful of a curiosity you can make out of the gear of your enemies.
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Re: Salvaging

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Bad idea. Let noobs keep their pants!
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Re: Salvaging

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Returned materials could be base q10 to avoid any awkward maths or requiring the game to remember initial material qualities
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Re: Salvaging

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This mechanics works pretty well in salem, objects remembers materials quality, so salvaging returns exact quality, but lesser quantity
Don't think that implementation of object ingredient memory is a big deal.
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