If Haven & Hearth was as a download file how big would it be

[donatas]

Let's say you can download haven and hearth like any other popular mmos do as a game file, not as a launcher which is what it currently is I suppose. How big would the download file would be? This would be including all of the game world map, to which I assume well up to 1GB or over.

[jordancoles]

OP I think that you're a little bit retarded. Not for this post but just like, in general.
And I'm really not sure why.. I can't put my finger on the reason just yet

[dafels]

OP I think that you're a little bit retarded, not for this post but just like, in general

hey man, be nice

[jordancoles]

OP I think that you're a little bit retarded, not for this post but just like, in general

hey man, be nice

Okay you're right.
I'm sorry Davis

[MagicManICT]

If you want to be technical, most MMOs you download as a launcher and then the game installs from the launcher. I think this is what jordan is referring to.

Now, if it were a single .zip file/installation package and actually installed from the launcher instead of loading dynamically while running, it'd be a few hundred MB at most. The Amber client is only 44MB. However, this doesn't contain all the graphics and other resource files, which are still cached dynamically after the game is launched and running.

OP I think that you're a little bit retarded, not for this post but just like, in general

hey man, be nice

[shubla]

If you want to be technical, most MMOs you download as a launcher and then the game installs from the launcher. I think this is what jordan is referring to.

Now, if it were a single .zip file/installation package and actually installed from the launcher instead of loading dynamically while running, it'd be a few hundred MB at most. The Amber client is only 44MB. However, this doesn't contain all the graphics and other resource files, which are still cached dynamically after the game is launched and running.

OP I think that you're a little bit retarded, not for this post but just like, in general

hey man, be nice

He wants to download whole world map, which would probably take a lot of space. Of course it would still have to be updated real-time like it currently is and there wouldnt be any benefit in downloading it.

[MagicManICT]

Of course it would still have to be updated real-time like it currently is and there wouldnt be any benefit in downloading it.

That's assuming they'd be willing to serve us the whole map at once, and you're correct in that the map requires updating constantly because of terraforming. Makes the whole exercise a moot point.

But just for the excuse to exercise my brain...

The current world size measures 5x5 supergrids (25000x25000 tiles). Let's call each map 100 kb for simplicity sake*. That's 6.25 x 10^10 kb.
10^10 kb = 10^7 Mb = 10^4 GB = 10 TB. That's 62.5 TB. I'm not figuring in the "border" maps you can see but can't actually enter.

*Actual files are .png that have some compression, and are somewhere between 10-70kb IIRC... been a while since I've dug out the cached maps, though, so may be wrong

(Assuming I'm doing my math right... I've double checked it, and don't see any errors... still seems ridiculously large, and feels like I've added too many zeros...)

[Granger]

The current world size measures 5x5 supergrids (25000x25000 tiles). Let's call each map 100 kb for simplicity sake*. That's 6.25 x 10^10 kb.
10^10 kb = 10^7 Mb = 10^4 GB = 10 TB. That's 62.5 TB. I'm not figuring in the "border" maps you can see but can't actually enter.

I think you're off with that.
5 supergrids² game world = 25000² tiles * 6 levels (ground and 5 underground)

Last time I looked the tile type was encoded in a byte, I guess elevation for the ground level also needs something (let's say a word, 2 bytes), that would be 25000²*8 (6 levels 1 byte tile type + 2 bytes for surface elevation) = 5,000,000,000 bytes (or 5GB in hard drive manufacturer terms).
That is quite manageable.

Then we need to encode the objects. Let's say we encode it relative to the minimap: a word each for x, y and type, a byte for rotation, a byte for size/growth stage for trees and crops/health for destructables, a word (on average over all, this may be on the high side) for modifyable material type: let's call it 10 bytes per object (for a default, persistent object, ignoring the attached lists for container/stockpile contents and similar stuff). Let's say further that every 50st tile is populated on average (over all levels, more on the surface and way less underground) with something, then we'll have another 25000²*6/50*10 = 750,000,000 bytes (or 750MB in hard drive manufacturer measurement), add some uncertainty and call it a GB. Also quite manageable.

Then we need to account for inventory contents for containers, pocket universes for houses and their contents, timers on the stuff that needs it, and whatnot. Let's say it's an old world and the people have been busy: double the amount needed.

Then we're at a ballpark of 16GB - which would fit into a normal root server without problems (your some-TB most likely wouldn't as of lacking disk space).

[DDDsDD999]

idk dude, probably pretty big, like a MB? Maybe 2 MB?

[maze]

Heard it was about 1bit