Seems like there is some error in the value of WB weight.
Even with 500 STR moving with WB in your hands is too slow.
Wouldn't post if it wasn't so ridiculous that carrying a boat with WB in it is much faster then only WB, so it looks like a bug.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
still in game, so I hope Jorbtar will take a look in thier (his?) debugging session.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
Will look at it.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
You mean carrying? We made it slower so that pushing the wheelbarrow wouldn't be slower than carrying it. Loaded boats as carrying trays are arguably a problem in their own right, but I'm not entirely sure how that should be adressed.Damon_Cooper wrote:Even with 500 STR moving with WB in your hands is too slow.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
Make it possible to hearth with a cart.jorb wrote:Loaded boats as carrying trays are arguably a problem in their own right, but I'm not entirely sure how that should be adressed.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
Yeap. Carrying wheelbarrow in hands. It is currently not affected by STR (but all other things are (logs, boats, containers). And there is no difference in speed between loaded and empty WB. And the main "buggy side" is loading WB into rowboat and carrying this rowboat over your had (with high enough STR) will have an effect (increased speed).jorb wrote:You mean carrying? We made it slower so that pushing the wheelbarrow wouldn't be slower than carrying it. Loaded boats as carrying trays are arguably a problem in their own right, but I'm not entirely sure how that should be adressed.Damon_Cooper wrote:Even with 500 STR moving with WB in your hands is too slow.
So:
1. Have 10 STR and carry (empty)boat - you move slow.
1.1. Have 200 STR and carry (empty)boat - you move fast.
2. Have 10 STR and carry WB - you move slow.
2.1. Have 200 STR and carry WB - you move slow.
3. Have 200 STR and carry boat with WB - you move fast.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
This.jorb wrote:We made it slower so that pushing the wheelbarrow wouldn't be slower than carrying it. Loaded boats as carrying trays are arguably a problem in their own right, but I'm not entirely sure how that should be adressed.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
I understood you, but it seems kinda odd when char with 500 STR can carry ALL the things even running, but turn into a turtle once he picks up an empty WB (not biggest thing among other). So maybe you can just buff pushing speed with STR increase instead of removing its influence in carrying?jorb wrote:This.jorb wrote:We made it slower so that pushing the wheelbarrow wouldn't be slower than carrying it. Loaded boats as carrying trays are arguably a problem in their own right, but I'm not entirely sure how that should be adressed.
UPD: And also, may you reconsider your decision at all? It looks pretty normal to me if some guy with 500 STR won't bother with pushing something and instead just grab it and run with it? So weak chars still will benefit from using it as intended but overpowered chars will benefit from carrying.
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
TBH, carrying such things is quite awkward. If it has a wheel or can be easily drug... why bother picking it up? (Aye, game mechanics dictate some need to carry wheelbarrows, but not for very long at once.)
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Re: Wheelbarrow weight
Try to take a stockpile of something from L5 to the upper level. It is super annoying - both crawling 10 tiles on 1st speed while carrying or putting it on the ground, pushing 10 tiles and picking up again.MagicManICT wrote:TBH, carrying such things is quite awkward. If it has a wheel or can be easily drug... why bother picking it up? (Aye, game mechanics dictate some need to carry wheelbarrows, but not for very long at once.)
And, if you already have to pick it up and you strong as bull, would you pull it on ground to push 2 steps to pick it up again or just make those 2 steps carrying it?

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