in the case of a hermit how is it balanced y should a hermit be able to contest an equally skill but larger group of players its not balanced at all that is the danger of working alone they should encourage players to group up not enable them to live alone nidbanes are a dumb mechanic at worse and a bandaid at best instead of making mechanics to punish players that r ahead by players that r behind they should just make it easier for new players to catch up or make it so new players can add real value to farther ahead players so that they r more willing to team up then to kill themAmanda44 wrote:I think this ^ ... when nidbanes were first introduced they were supposed to be able to help the lower tier players and hermit type players extract some kind of revenge on players they had no hope of defeating otherwise, I liked this idea, it brings some kind of balance, but the way they work in reality makes them totally pointless for this purpose.tyrtix wrote:maybe make it works is better?
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there is no music, I have a lot of alts and I can only send 1 nidbane, what you mean?DDDsDD999 wrote:Problem is it's basically impossible to 1v1 most nidbanes without kiting them or grouping on them. If they send more than 1 you're just fucked if you're out in the wild. And when actually established players spam nidbanes on you it's the most annoying shit ever. They make murder alts required, because getting spammed with alts basically means you're gonna get spammed with empowered murder nidbanes.
Trading wax and metal for the massive HHP damage they do when they KO (let alone fucking killing the character) is the dumbest idea ever. It's probably the most cancerous mechanic in game. They need a complete redo.
Go back to music appreciation tbh
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I'm simply saying that was the reason for their introduction, to help lower tier players getting stomped all over by bigger groups and higher tier players, I'm assuming as some sort of encouragement.xdragonlord18 wrote:in the case of a hermit how is it balanced y should a hermit be able to contest an equally skill but larger group of players its not balanced at all that is the danger of working alone they should encourage players to group up not enable them to live alone nidbanes are a dumb mechanic at worse and a bandaid at best instead of making mechanics to punish players that r ahead by players that r behind they should just make it easier for new players to catch up or make it so new players can add real value to farther ahead players so that they r more willing to team up then to kill themAmanda44 wrote:I think this ^ ... when nidbanes were first introduced they were supposed to be able to help the lower tier players and hermit type players extract some kind of revenge on players they had no hope of defeating otherwise, I liked this idea, it brings some kind of balance, but the way they work in reality makes them totally pointless for this purpose.tyrtix wrote:maybe make it works is better?
I'm not saying a hermit or lower tier player is equal to a large group, I'm just saying I liked the introduction of nidbanes, the idea that if a large established group decides to attack a smaller unestablished group there is something that they can do in return that stops them feeling so helpless.
This game allows you freedom of choice in how you want to play, not everyone wants to group up or live in a large village where you are quite often not really experiencing the 'whole' of the game but rather specializing in specific roles, there should be no mechanic that forces players into a dictated way of playing.
Yes, I can understand what you are saying here and I agree they do need reworking. Maybe only allow one nidbane to be sent on the person who has committed the crime at the time?DDDsDD999 wrote: And when actually established players spam nidbanes on you it's the most annoying shit ever. They make murder alts required, because getting spammed with alts basically means you're gonna get spammed with empowered murder nidbanes.
They need a complete redo.
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Maybe make it so the nidbane are stronger, more the crimes you commit.

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if you left a lot of tracks then it would be correct to call a lot of nidbansDDDsDD999 wrote:Problem is it's basically impossible to 1v1 most nidbanes without kiting them or grouping on them. If they send more than 1 you're just fucked if you're out in the wild. And when actually established players spam nidbanes on you it's the most annoying shit ever. They make murder alts required, because getting spammed with alts basically means you're gonna get spammed with empowered murder nidbanes.
Trading wax and metal for the massive HHP damage they do when they KO (let alone fucking killing the character) is the dumbest idea ever. It's probably the most cancerous mechanic in game. They need a complete redo.
Go back to music appreciation tbh
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if a large established group decides to attack a smaller unestablished group then the recourse should b for the smaller group to get bigger and more established thats it the game offers the freedom and always should but everything has a cost and the cost of playing with fewer people is that u get fucked by larger groups thats how it is u cant have ur cake and eat it toAmanda44 wrote:I'm simply saying that was the reason for their introduction, to help lower tier players getting stomped all over by bigger groups and higher tier players, I'm assuming as some sort of encouragement.xdragonlord18 wrote:in the case of a hermit how is it balanced y should a hermit be able to contest an equally skill but larger group of players its not balanced at all that is the danger of working alone they should encourage players to group up not enable them to live alone nidbanes are a dumb mechanic at worse and a bandaid at best instead of making mechanics to punish players that r ahead by players that r behind they should just make it easier for new players to catch up or make it so new players can add real value to farther ahead players so that they r more willing to team up then to kill themAmanda44 wrote: I think this ^ ... when nidbanes were first introduced they were supposed to be able to help the lower tier players and hermit type players extract some kind of revenge on players they had no hope of defeating otherwise, I liked this idea, it brings some kind of balance, but the way they work in reality makes them totally pointless for this purpose.![]()
I'm not saying a hermit or lower tier player is equal to a large group, I'm just saying I liked the introduction of nidbanes, the idea that if a large established group decides to attack a smaller unestablished group there is something that they can do in return that stops them feeling so helpless.
This game allows you freedom of choice in how you want to play, not everyone wants to group up or live in a large village where you are quite often not really experiencing the 'whole' of the game but rather specializing in specific roles, there should be no mechanic that forces players into a dictated way of playing.
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I didn't introduce nidbanes you know ...xdragonlord18 wrote:if a large established group decides to attack a smaller unestablished group then the recourse should b for the smaller group to get bigger and more established thats it the game offers the freedom and always should but everything has a cost and the cost of playing with fewer people is that u get fucked by larger groups thats how it is u cant have ur cake and eat it toAmanda44 wrote:I'm simply saying that was the reason for their introduction, to help lower tier players getting stomped all over by bigger groups and higher tier players, I'm assuming as some sort of encouragement.xdragonlord18 wrote: in the case of a hermit how is it balanced y should a hermit be able to contest an equally skill but larger group of players its not balanced at all that is the danger of working alone they should encourage players to group up not enable them to live alone nidbanes are a dumb mechanic at worse and a bandaid at best instead of making mechanics to punish players that r ahead by players that r behind they should just make it easier for new players to catch up or make it so new players can add real value to farther ahead players so that they r more willing to team up then to kill them![]()
I'm not saying a hermit or lower tier player is equal to a large group, I'm just saying I liked the introduction of nidbanes, the idea that if a large established group decides to attack a smaller unestablished group there is something that they can do in return that stops them feeling so helpless.
This game allows you freedom of choice in how you want to play, not everyone wants to group up or live in a large village where you are quite often not really experiencing the 'whole' of the game but rather specializing in specific roles, there should be no mechanic that forces players into a dictated way of playing.
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uhhhh nobody is saying or even implying that u didAmanda44 wrote: I didn't introduce nidbanes you know ...
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