Hi,
We're going to make it so that Menhirs and Grotesque Idols work more akin to normal objects, in that they do not require realm challenges to destroy, but rather are instead protected by claims and claim shields. This to make it possible to conquer them from one realm to another.
They probably already are, but you might want to ensure that your security arrangements are up to speed with that.
Over and out
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Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protection
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
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Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
Interesting change. Was there something that prompted this?
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
I figure it's to encourage claiming realm over instead of bashing the idols thus not punishing noobs as much?

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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
Thanks for the headsup
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
But with this change alone they won't be transferable? This is just the groundwork leading to that?jorb wrote:Hi,
We're going to make it so that Menhirs and Grotesque Idols work more akin to normal objects, in that they do not require realm challenges to destroy, but rather are instead protected by claims and claim shields. This to make it possible to conquer them from one realm to another.
They probably already are, but you might want to ensure that your security arrangements are up to speed with that.
Over and out
I very much agree that they should be transferable between realms, but this seems like the type of thing to do all at once.
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
What do you mean by conquer? Can your realm absorb them?jorb wrote:This to make it possible to conquer them from one realm to another.
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
Like, if Aki Habara claims some land and NK comes along and absorbs that land? Thus making it now to where the people who are living inside 1 realm or the other just change over bonuses? This would help someone like me, a noob, as I live on the middle border of both these 2 kingdoms, and the buffs disappear for days sometimes weeks at a time until 1 or the other rebuild their thingys 
If this is not what this is changing, then forgive me. I'm still like... bad

If this is not what this is changing, then forgive me. I'm still like... bad
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
Imho it's a very controversial idea, cause peoples from losing side will just destroy them, instead than letting enemy capture them and become even more stronger and/or will start build them in something like hidden remote L5 underground vaults. Small amount per each vault, cause it will make concealing of them easer and reduce damage to realm bonuses from each losing battle (siege). All of this will negative affect capitals of realm which will lose one of their impotant function and become even more deserted than now.
Imho, much more proper way is implementing of proper diplomacy between realms that let realm use authority cost action like "Wage War" against another realm and after become winner in this war get some of idols/menhirs (amount will be depended by demand that offender realm will set before start a war) of loser transfered to their coronation stone as spoils of war. Setting higher demand will require more authority, but total amount of spoils of war (per each victory in war) cannot become more than half of all menhirs/idols that losing realm have. Loser and winner can be defined by amount of authority/cairns that each realm spent/lose during war. And ofc during war idols/menhirs of realms cannot be destroyed. And ofc war can not go on forever. Something like this, at least.
Imho, much more proper way is implementing of proper diplomacy between realms that let realm use authority cost action like "Wage War" against another realm and after become winner in this war get some of idols/menhirs (amount will be depended by demand that offender realm will set before start a war) of loser transfered to their coronation stone as spoils of war. Setting higher demand will require more authority, but total amount of spoils of war (per each victory in war) cannot become more than half of all menhirs/idols that losing realm have. Loser and winner can be defined by amount of authority/cairns that each realm spent/lose during war. And ofc during war idols/menhirs of realms cannot be destroyed. And ofc war can not go on forever. Something like this, at least.
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Re: Development Headsup: Menhir and Grotesque Idol Protectio
Uh, that is completely opposite of what I've been talking with my friends about... We were rather hoping on added shield to the cities that have realm statues inside, especially coronation stone, so sieging important for kingdom villages and the capital itself would be harder.
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