Did loftar write about evils of XML or such at some point?

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Did loftar write about evils of XML or such at some point?

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Long time ago I remember reading some wip paper or something that loftar was planning to write for university or something about how everyone insisting that pretty much everything that could be should be in xml(or was it something else) is silly because it's rarely the best way to store data and that just making your own thing that actually suits whatever you are doing better requires just writing an interpreter which shouldn't be that hard for most programmers to do.

Anyway I tried to look that up since my memory of it has gotten somewhat fuzzy but I'm having trouble finding the link to it, can anyone link me to it?
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If it was posted here on the forums, it probably got lost when the migration for world 8 was done. It's here, but the indexing and such blew up. If the post was w3 or earlier, it should show up in a search.
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Endymion wrote:Long time ago I remember reading some wip paper or something that loftar was planning to write for university or something about how everyone insisting that pretty much everything that could be should be in xml(or was it something else) is silly because it's rarely the best way to store data and that just making your own thing that actually suits whatever you are doing better requires just writing an interpreter which shouldn't be that hard for most programmers to do.

Anyway I tried to look that up since my memory of it has gotten somewhat fuzzy but I'm having trouble finding the link to it, can anyone link me to it?
I think same could be said for all kinds of standards.
Way that standard tells to do somethings rarely is optimal in all cases, but standards are still needed. Things would get messy otherwise. XML Is pretty horrible, but portability is why it is used. XML is so commonly used, that you know everyone probably can handle XML data, without need of your custom programs to decypher it.
If everyone would just write their custom interpreters for everything, sharing data between different systems and such would get a lot difficult.
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Ty very much!

Also for portability it seems that he's saying that in most cases you'll still need to write something to decypher the xml data into something your own xml schema understands so using xml or not doesn't really make a difference there.
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shubla wrote:
Endymion wrote:Long time ago I remember reading some wip paper or something that loftar was planning to write for university or something about how everyone insisting that pretty much everything that could be should be in xml(or was it something else) is silly because it's rarely the best way to store data and that just making your own thing that actually suits whatever you are doing better requires just writing an interpreter which shouldn't be that hard for most programmers to do.

Anyway I tried to look that up since my memory of it has gotten somewhat fuzzy but I'm having trouble finding the link to it, can anyone link me to it?
I think same could be said for all kinds of standards.
Way that standard tells to do somethings rarely is optimal in all cases, but standards are still needed. Things would get messy otherwise. XML Is pretty horrible, but portability is why it is used. XML is so commonly used, that you know everyone probably can handle XML data, without need of your custom programs to decypher it.
If everyone would just write their custom interpreters for everything, sharing data between different systems and such would get a lot difficult.
yeah but consider this: XML is shit

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