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Jalpha
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Re: The end of the Universe
That's pretty close to what I consider likely but there are a few arguments against that future within the thread. I'm not entirely convinced either way.
Laying flat.
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Oddity
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Re: The end of the Universe
speculating about the nature of reality on the Haven & Hearth forums

jadamkaz wrote:ah i remember my run in with odditown they are good ppl im sure the only reason they killed ME is because they are troll hunters and i was a troll
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sMartins
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Re: The end of the Universe
Us, two thousand years from now, discovering the H&H forum:

It's like reading a history book in German and willing to learn aboout the Roman Empire without knowing German.
It's not easy to learn like a new language it is, but with the difference that usually we don't speak with math to practice, that we can do with languages and slowly, a step at time learning them. And, like languages, if you don't speak it for too long you forget about it, most of all if you never really learned it that well.
I've never been that good with Math, low-average student, I think I can say my most in depth comprehension of Math stops with differential analysis and Maxwell.
Nevertheless Math is absolutly beautiful .... If you have the inclination, just takes patience and lot, lot of time.
Then there are some people with very high abstractive skills, that can immediatly relate a symbol on the paper with a concrete concept, idea, understanding immediatly what the symbol is telling, well, fuck them ..... bastards, but they are not a lot. I knew a couple of them in University and honestly I was envious of their skill.

Math, per se, it's just a language ... but nobody usually take care to learn the language first and want to know immediately what it's telling.Jalpha wrote:Complex math has just never made sense to me and we always fear what we don't understand. It's something I really should work on but I am yet to find a need which overcomes my aprehension.
It's like reading a history book in German and willing to learn aboout the Roman Empire without knowing German.
It's not easy to learn like a new language it is, but with the difference that usually we don't speak with math to practice, that we can do with languages and slowly, a step at time learning them. And, like languages, if you don't speak it for too long you forget about it, most of all if you never really learned it that well.
I've never been that good with Math, low-average student, I think I can say my most in depth comprehension of Math stops with differential analysis and Maxwell.
Nevertheless Math is absolutly beautiful .... If you have the inclination, just takes patience and lot, lot of time.
Then there are some people with very high abstractive skills, that can immediatly relate a symbol on the paper with a concrete concept, idea, understanding immediatly what the symbol is telling, well, fuck them ..... bastards, but they are not a lot. I knew a couple of them in University and honestly I was envious of their skill.
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Re: The end of the Universe
If you don't work in specialized sectors like economics, engineering, or physics, is there a need for some of these more complex forms of math? My brother has a math degree... never uses it because he didn't get a job out of college in the field, and by the time his family got going, he was making better working his way up the management chain in retail than changing careers.Jalpha wrote:Complex math has just never made sense to me and we always fear what we don't understand. It's something I really should work on but I am yet to find a need which overcomes my aprehension.
There's a lot of confusion here between the double slit experiment and the uncertainty principle. I thought logic was supposed to precede mathematics. I don't like things which say "math says this so it has to be logical" particularly when it isn't.
Math does come after the logic, but often our perception of what is doesn't match what actual is. We miss details and don't paint the whole picture, so we have to adjust, and adjust the match with it. For the most of us, it just makes the math look odd because we haven't been following the conversation. (And it's not like the rules of logic haven't changed over the course of time, too.)
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sMartins
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Re: The end of the Universe
Well, there is always a good reason to learn, anything really. But Math, I'd say it's the most substantial way we have to know the reality, and to talk about the reality.MagicManICT wrote:is there a need for some of these more complex forms of math?
Btw, these days, I think we should focus a bit more on literature, that talks about the man, it's here where we are lacking .... math doesn't care about men, it's an end in itself.
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Zentetsuken
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Re: The end of the Universe
I have a theory that this is not the end of the shitposts. That there is an infinite vacuum of nothingness inside jalphas head. That when any tiny piece of buzzfeed article is skimmed during the critical point of being bored and stoned it will burst and release shitposts. That this will happen to a great deal of subofrums almost simultaneously across a vast area of havenandhearth.com. And that the resulting explosion will form a bloated postcount and silly discussions.
Will we survive it?
Will we survive it?
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NOOBY93
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Re: The end of the Universe
Jalpha wrote:I believe in my interpretation of things.
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Trappin
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Re: The end of the Universe
Descriptions of descriptions. That's how most of us try to understand how the universe around us is composed. Black and white balls in boxes? I guess there are two ways to a deeper understanding of the cosmos. Math and philosophy. Einstein envisioned things, but he needed help with the esoteric math. And that's just the temporal world of our consciousness. People ask the same about death. And I guess that part of our existence is past another less physical, but equally important event horizon. The soviet social scientist Lev Gumiilev held this odd notion of a biosphere of consciousness enveloping the earth (not a noos sphere). A spiritual accretion disk. How do we do the math on that? I won't dismiss the idea any more than I can accept the notion that a black hole can vanish matter ... because magic math!
I just want to know .. what's for dinner tonight.
I just want to know .. what's for dinner tonight.
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Onep
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Re: The end of the Universe
Really makes you :thunk:
“We still, alas, cannot forestall it-
This dreadful ailment's heavy toll;
The spleen is what the English call it,
We call it simply, Russian soul.”
An idea to consider: Tedium, a Feature.
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This dreadful ailment's heavy toll;
The spleen is what the English call it,
We call it simply, Russian soul.”
An idea to consider: Tedium, a Feature.
Do you like Onep? Do you think he'd look good in green? www.Onep4mod.com
Jorb hates me. :\
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Onep
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Re: The end of the Universe
Honestly, it's a hard tie between smartins and enjoyment for the most unironically retarded user on this forum. Or maybe I should say, pseudo-intellectuals?
“We still, alas, cannot forestall it-
This dreadful ailment's heavy toll;
The spleen is what the English call it,
We call it simply, Russian soul.”
An idea to consider: Tedium, a Feature.
Do you like Onep? Do you think he'd look good in green? www.Onep4mod.com
Jorb hates me. :\
This dreadful ailment's heavy toll;
The spleen is what the English call it,
We call it simply, Russian soul.”
An idea to consider: Tedium, a Feature.
Do you like Onep? Do you think he'd look good in green? www.Onep4mod.com
Jorb hates me. :\

