Prelude, pt. II: World 11 Changelog

[Ozzy123]

If you wanted to siege a village with 4 layers of brickwall you would need to siege it and guard your siege engines for 120 hours. I think everyone will agree that it makes sieging literally impossible, noone will play non stop for 120 hours. And you can't really guard the catapult aswell because someone can just rush at it with 10 alts with pickaxes and bash it.

It will take less if you will move your best catas to next brickwall and repair them, so only waiting 8 hours per layer, not 24 every wall.

The brickwalls can be far away from each others though so it would be faster to just build new catapults than to move them xd

[VDZ]

First of all, thank you for providing an ETA, that really helps. I'll check if I can get my day off moved from Friday to Monday

[*] There is now decay in caves, albeit only about 1/10th of what it is in the overworld.

Cupboards still take only a single decay hit to break, right? One of the biggest advantages (maybe THE biggest advantage?) of cave homes was that you could just place cupboards wherever instead of having to put them all inside houses. With them being destroyed in one decay hit, even at only 1/10th of overworld decay, or even at 1/100th of overworld decay, this becomes infeasible because an entire cupboard suddenly vanishing can be devastating, making this a massive nerf to cave homes (as well as mining mini-bases and the like). Could we get a buff/exception for cupboards so they can survive cave decay if actively repaired, or is this an intentional change to make cupboards in caves infeasible?

[Ozzy123]

Cupboards still take only a single decay hit to break, right? One of the biggest advantages (maybe THE biggest advantage?) of cave homes was that you could just place cupboards wherever instead of having to put them all inside houses. With them being destroyed in one decay hit, even at only 1/10th of overworld decay, or even at 1/100th of overworld decay, this becames infeasible because an entire cupboard suddenly vanishing can be devastating, making this a massive nerf to cave homes (as well as mining mini-bases and the like). Could we get a buff/exception for cupboards so they can survive cave decay if actively repaired, or is this an intentional change to make cupboards in caves infeasible?

Just build houses then?

[NoBizd]

If you wanted to siege a village with 4 layers of brickwall you would need to siege it and guard your siege engines for 120 hours. I think everyone will agree that it makes sieging literally impossible, noone will play non stop for 120 hours. And you can't really guard the catapult aswell because someone can just rush at it with 10 alts with pickaxes and bash it.

It will take less if you will move your best catas to next brickwall and repair them, so only waiting 8 hours per layer, not 24 every wall.

The brickwalls can be far away from each others though so it would be faster to just build new catapults than to move them xd

4+ brick walls, far away from eachother, are usually fractions villages. And those are raided by other big fractions, so yeah - there is plenty of people to change every few hours in defing catas.

[Ozzy123]

4+ brick walls, far away from eachother, are usually fractions villages. And those are raided by other big fractions, so yeah - there is plenty of people to change every few hours in defing catas.

No, it doesn't work like that. Even if you get 10 people changing every 10 hours or something then the defenders can still group up and just go as 30 or 50 people and destroy the siege engines at anytime they want.

[jorb]

An attacker can scale up the number of attacking catapults almost arbitrarily.

An attacker can use a battering ram, which, if well powered, should deal significantly more damage than catapults.

[ChildhoodObesity]

tbh the old siege system is about 100000x better than this

[strpk0]

Small question about the changes to Rage (and being able to murder people who own the Rage skill):

Does having not learnt the Rage skill also block you from murdering someone?
Because otherwise I can see it becoming a problem that someone would raise a fighter character, entice people to aggro them in some way and be able to fight back and murder them with no risk of their own deaths involved.

[NoBizd]

4+ brick walls, far away from eachother, are usually fractions villages. And those are raided by other big fractions, so yeah - there is plenty of people to change every few hours in defing catas.

No, it doesn't work like that. Even if you get 10 people changing every 10 hours or something then the defenders can still group up and just go as 30 or 50 people and destroy the siege engines at anytime they want.

So just gather group of 30 or 50 people then by yourself for attack if it's so simple? That's how real world works. You don't attack the group of people that have number advantage over you.

[SuperTrix]

Wow, nice changes!