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jorb
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Re: Alternatives to mines
Window has been increased to two ingame hours.
"The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials we must be living in a different world."
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Turtleshot
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Re: Alternatives to mines
What does that even mean?jorb wrote:Window has been increased to two ingame hours.
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jorb
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Re: Alternatives to mines
It means that we have extended the blooming phase of hemp.
"The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials we must be living in a different world."
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g1real
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Re: Alternatives to mines
Think you're losing the point where some people just dont want to trade and aquire resources on their own.sabinati wrote:have you actually attempted to make trades with people?
Hermit style hint hint.
Edit: I whole-hearthedly agree with some form of rare ore resources to be found outside of the standard mine points, adds to realism and it makes owning a mine more of a luxury then a must.
loftar: The inner chaos of the Jorbian mind is hard to conceal. 
jorb: It's called creative license. You know, that thing you seem to want to apply to logic, grammar and coherence?
jorb: It's called creative license. You know, that thing you seem to want to apply to logic, grammar and coherence?
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Potjeh
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Sarge
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Re: Alternatives to mines
Regionality, regionality, regionality.
One example: You found an iron mine, GREAT asset, but you are at least a whole supergrid away from where wheat will grow (soil type). How valuable would some baked goods now become in your area, farm hats, bundles of straw etc etc - How keen will you now be to trade your iron for these good, and will someone with wheat have to have an iron mine or beg for an alternative to sourcing metal...
IMHO: I can not see how this is not the ultimate answer to striking balance and not just reviving trade, it makes trade a necessity.
One example: You found an iron mine, GREAT asset, but you are at least a whole supergrid away from where wheat will grow (soil type). How valuable would some baked goods now become in your area, farm hats, bundles of straw etc etc - How keen will you now be to trade your iron for these good, and will someone with wheat have to have an iron mine or beg for an alternative to sourcing metal...
IMHO: I can not see how this is not the ultimate answer to striking balance and not just reviving trade, it makes trade a necessity.
factnfiction101 wrote:^I agree with this guy.
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Brickbreaker
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Re: Alternatives to mines
I agree with you Sarge and I hope Fredrik and Bjorn consider this in the next map, its truly the only answer.
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Potjeh
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Re: Alternatives to mines
I'd prefer a bit softer approach. Something like you can still grow wheat by that mine, but it'll take twice as long to grow and will only yield 2 seeds, whereas a wheat favourable area may produce 4-5 seeds and only take 2/3 of normal time to grow. Well, it should simply fail to grow in extreme biomes, but that shouldn't happen right next to areas favourable to wheat.
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Avu
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Re: Alternatives to mines
I'm all for trade being a necessity but not at all for trade being a chore like it is now. Some not so realistic ways need to be implemented first in order for bulk trades to be made. River interconnected grids. huge storage space boats, easily made roads that actually increase your speed, a more accessible teleportation system etc.
"Since all men count themselves righteous, and since
no righteous man raises his hand against the innocent,
a man need only strike another to make him evil."
no righteous man raises his hand against the innocent,
a man need only strike another to make him evil."
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Potjeh
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Re: Alternatives to mines
Yeah, river systems that cross grid borders are a must for trade. If there was a Danube-like river in the H&H world, trade would be a LOT easier.