Credos Need Urgent fixing

[Kaios]

I understand the points made about many of these credos being easier to complete later in the world but how does that change the fact that the scaling sucks? If I am a new player hermiting or starting a new village 6 months in to a world and I am doing quarryman credo and need to visit a lvl 4 cave that is still going to be just as difficult as it was for players in the first week too. The scaling needs to be addressed and I certainly agree with the points about the RNG factors, there is already a lot to deal with in this game so anywhere you could lower the amount of RNG involved in accomplishing a task would be much appreciated.

My experience with abandoning quests so far has been terrible, I abandoned my very first quest to visit level 4, got another visit level 4 right after and then abandoned again and was stuck on mining marble for over a week due to being unable to find any in my area. Now I need to mine black ore. I have so little time to spend on doing credos that I don’t even want to risk the abandon any more for fear of extending the time I spend on something I already detest doing.

[Hrenli]

quarryman credo and need to visit a lvl 4 cave

That was supposedly fixed last patch (couldn't verify though as already had it completed before the patch).

[Kaios]

quarryman credo and need to visit a lvl 4 cave

That was supposedly fixed last patch (couldn't verify though as already had it completed before the patch).

It doesn’t really matter, it’s just one example out of many I only use it because it applies to me. If I had waited about a week before abandoning I actually would have been able to complete that quest but then why am I forced in to waiting to make progress while players that have all day to spend on the game can more easily spend time on abandoning until they get something more ideal. Is that supposed to be a good mechanic?

[Sevenless]

You seem to be suggesting that people playing more getting to advance more is a bad thing. Are we playing eve?

Some of the quests are weirdly out of depth, or oceans have fucked with, but that sentiment seems strange to me.

[Kaios]

You seem to be suggesting that people playing more getting to advance more is a bad thing. Are we playing eve?

Some of the quests are weirdly out of depth, or oceans have fucked with, but that sentiment seems strange to me.

I’m saying there is no penalty at all to consistently abandoning quests other than the -1 and so the people who have more time to spend on going through this process of abandoning quests until something more feasible becomes available are simply circumventing the RNG that the rest of us have to deal with.

[Ysh]

You seem to be suggesting that people playing more getting to advance more is a bad thing. Are we playing eve?

Some of the quests are weirdly out of depth, or oceans have fucked with, but that sentiment seems strange to me.

I’m saying there is no penalty at all to consistently abandoning quests other than the -1 and so the people who have more time to spend on going through this process of abandoning quests until something more feasible becomes available are simply circumventing the RNG that the rest of us have to deal with.

Yes, I also dislike that this optimal strategy appear to be aggressive abandoning.

From other thread:

"Study 2 long ass study time curio" quests are always frustrating to get. Its not engaging or challenging just annoying.

Which is precisely what I like. I appreciate the break from the incessant grinding that they offer.

Except that there is way to circumvent this with incessant grinding by repeatedly abandon quest until get easy one. Personally, I am not much of gambling man, so I will just do quest if it is possible for me to do it. But I think probably this is not optimal strategy. For some men, knowing he employs suboptimal strategy is a great burden to his mind.

On topic has whole, I am not sure mechanism of credo acquisition is fundamentally broken. Though it seem to me that there is some illogic in quest generation system. Some quest is far, far easier than other and for objective reason beyond merely my own local condition. It is also possible to aggressively use abandons to avoid doing any harder quests at all. I will like to see some better consistency here among all players.

[Pupsi]

I have almost 4 credos and I did not skip a single quest. I love those where you need to learn long-running curiosities, at least I can take a rest of stupid credos, that are needed but very long and meaningless to perform.

[Kaios]

I have almost 4 credos and I did not skip a single quest. I love those where you need to learn long-running curiosities, at least I can sleep.

In my opinion that only gives more weight to the points regarding RNG, I have only skipped the quests I mentioned but for example what should I do about needing to mine black ore if I haven’t found it yet and it has been going on a week or longer? Do I risk the abandon and possibly get something even more difficult? Do I keep waiting and searching and hoping I come across what I need? My complaint really isn’t about curio studying quests because those are much easier in comparison to quests like mine/deliver leaf ore, craft troll belt, craft dragonhelm, create a lvl 4 artifact, etc. and if you didn’t abandon such quests then good job I guess but if you were lucky enough not to get those at all that is still just the RNG.

[Pupsi]

RNG

Why rushing credos so hard? You can't catch anyone who has an army of bots (in qualities, stats, attributes whatever). I play in my pleasure, if difficult quests come across to me, I wait a week or two (as with “visit mine level ...”) however I’m ready to wait a month to get what the holy RNG wants me to do. But as practice shows, there are no impossible quests, I take them as a challenge and not a punishment. Peace

[Field]

I'd agree with you Pupsi, but many brave souls have learned to never pursue "Experience the *event*" quests for a reason. I do not think they belong at all compared to the other quests. It's also poor ballance where quests regardless of difficulty reward you the same.