Non-rage knockout protection should not apply vs animals

[loftar]

When knock-out protection was implemented, it was applied to players and animals alike simply because of symmetry and convenience. However:

• Prior to that, it was a good thing that animals could potentially be deadly, especially as regards such things as trolls and mammoths, and losing that is bad.
• When Rage was changed to remove said protection, that created an unnecessary asymmetry between rage vs. non-rage characters in PvE. Said asymmetry could be remedied either by making knock-out protection always apply against animals, or by making it never apply against animals. I would prefer the latter.

That's it. Posting it here to see if it will be considered.

[boshaw]

The latter sounds better. Wild animals, or at least the mean deadly ones, should be able to kill you.

[bmjclark]

The latter sounds better. Wild animals, or at least the mean deadly ones, should be able to kill you.

+1

[shubla]

What about people knocking you out in water?

[loftar]

What about people knocking you out in water?

What about it?

[rye130]

What about people knocking you out in water?

What about it?

Boats are wild animals and shouldn't attack players that are knocked out in them!

[loftar]

Boats are wild animals and shouldn't attack players that are knocked out in them!

1. Boats are not wild animals, but if they were, this thread, if anything, argues the opposite.
2. To the best of my knowledge, players getting knocked out in boats are not dismounted and thus are not in danger of either the boat or of the water.
3. This is off-topic, take it to its own thread if you care strongly about it.
4. Even if you're just pretending to be retarded, shitposting is still shitposting.

[Aceb]

When knock-out protection was implemented, it was applied to players and animals alike simply because of symmetry and convenience. However:

• Prior to that, it was a good thing that animals could potentially be deadly, especially as regards such things as trolls and mammoths, and losing that is bad.
• When Rage was changed to remove said protection, that created an unnecessary asymmetry between rage vs. non-rage characters in PvE. Said asymmetry could be remedied either by making knock-out protection always apply against animals, or by making it never apply against animals. I would prefer the latter.

That's it. Posting it here to see if it will be considered.

Fix fleas and leeches being able to kill K.Oed people, finish the lag spike saga, grant a player some form of escape or big chance that after K.O, animal has huge chance to drop interest.

Bears and wolfs are quick enough to keep up with running player. Odds that player will escape without some form of cave, terrain is small and it would suck to die to animals, just because those are faster. In legacy, only bear was something You had to be aware of, now, there's a lot that can catch up to player and help them met their demise.

That's from me.

@edit: not to say when You're showered with slimes when mining if it's still a thing.

[shubla]

What about people knocking you out in water?

What about it?

You should be able to teleport into your HF normally, if you dont have rage unlocked when you get knocked out in the water.
To many players, it comes as a surprise that you die, as they may think that other players cannot kill them if they dont have rage unlocked.
Especially now, as we have multiple boat types with different speeds, there is no chance to escape if your boat is of slower type.
Its also pretty silly that the difference between permanent death and few scratches could be just a fw tiles.
Yeah water should be dangerous for sure, but I really dont think that other players would magically be able to suddenly kill you, when they normally could not.

Edit: they destroy your boat and then you drown

[rye130]

Boats are wild animals and shouldn't attack players that are knocked out in them!

1. Boats are not wild animals, but if they were, this thread, if anything, argues the opposite.
2. To the best of my knowledge, players getting knocked out in boats are not dismounted and thus are not in danger of either the boat or of the water.
3. This is off-topic, take it to its own thread if you care strongly about it.
4. Even if you're just pretending to be retarded, shitposting is still shitposting.

Poor attempt at a joke was what it was.

What shubla was refering to though was players without rage being knocked out in a boat and having the boat the are in smashed by the player that knocked them out, forcing the non-rage player to drown.