I didnt even read OP because it was too long and not interesting.MightySheep wrote:Hey im all for shitting on haven but I give this 3/10. Id do way better thread about why haven sucksshubla wrote:> somebody has valid points about why the game is not that good
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Re: <rant> Why I didnt like this game

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Granger
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I guess you muppets just proved his point about a toxic community.
/me thinking about grinding the axe to chop some heads.
/me thinking about grinding the axe to chop some heads.
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iamahh
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Re: <rant> Why I didnt like this game
this thread is a classic when the world is settling down
op wants the classic mmo experience, but thats kinda rare in a world of esports and pubg
problem nowadays is not enough players for too many games... back in the day any mmo would give you that
op wants the classic mmo experience, but thats kinda rare in a world of esports and pubg
problem nowadays is not enough players for too many games... back in the day any mmo would give you that
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These are some spirited responses. Glad to see that people are so passionate about this corner of the internet

I assume you haven't heard of the Terse Brothers and their insane development and bugfix speed? New expansion every week~
I literally complained about this in my OP. The "classic" experience is simply something that doesn't sync up well with me despite giving it a fair shot, so instead I got my multiplayer experiences from elsewhereiamahh wrote:op wants the classic mmo experience, but thats kinda rare in a world of esports and pubg
Good question; it's not something that can easily be put into wordsYsh wrote:Ok, but why did you not like the game?
It was a playsession that lasted until 4AM and my biggest achievement was making a pair of clogs. I never managed any clothes much less a shackLightning2 wrote:Did you manage to create a shack and then you quit
It begs the question of if you lot care more about interacting with each other rather then the game itself.shubla wrote:> somebody has valid points about why the game is not that good
> "ITS NOT A GAME FOR EVERYONE"
pls
Yes, and the artist's purpose in society is to do the impossibleMagicManICT wrote:No, Haven isn't for everyone. Yes, there's a lot of problems. Everyone acknowledges it.
Big-budget devs often prove to be no different in this regard.MagicManICT wrote:The downside is you have very few people working on it... too few, even. Ideas never get realized fast enough, bugs don't get fixed fast enough.
I assume you haven't heard of the Terse Brothers and their insane development and bugfix speed? New expansion every week~
All of the games I have mentioned are the "great game" that kept me busy for years. I moved on only because I wanted something new after who knows how many hours spentMagicManICT wrote:It's a labor of love, not profit. If you don't love it, then at least good luck to you in the search for the "great game" you can play for years to come.
ooh maybe i should work for themSaxony4 wrote:This is an april fools joke, right?
It's like I read an average kotaku article.
Go right ahead and post it I want to seeMightySheep wrote:Hey im all for shitting on haven but I give this 3/10. Id do way better thread about why haven sucks
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I think of the Adams brothers when I think indie game development and what can be accomplished with art. Not everyone has the same vision, and not everyone is working on the same type of project.alecciarosewater wrote:I assume you haven't heard of the Terse Brothers and their insane development and bugfix speed? New expansion every week~
TBH, I've played dozens of indie MMOs with dev teams of less than 5 people. The best done one I've played is Perpetuum, but I think they had some outside budget help to get going. The next would be A Tale in the Desert (1-3 for it's entire history that I'm aware). Haven ranks at #3 in my list of accomplished MMOs of <5 devs. I've not dug around a lot the last few years for newer ones, mostly due to lack of budget (most want you to pay up front or subscriptions) or lack of interest in the game world/subject/style. (And if you count MUDs, I've played 100+, but then Haven would probably move down several places, probably under top 10. i'd note several of those had volunteer developers/wizards, though, so not sure you could count them as "less than 5 developer team")
And as far as a starting budget, not everyone starts with a house and retirement fund to dump into startup costs. Some people bootstrap their projects from nothing, some people start right out of college and have little to no prior experience except from school, some are just great at art and design and figure out the programming as they go along. Of these, few are MMOs.
And did you mean Trese Brothers? If so, I don't see any multiplayer games in their catalog, let alone MMOs.
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Re: <rant> Why I didnt like this game
LEARN TO PLAY FOOL, GIT GUD OR GTFO!!!
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Ysh wrote:Ok, but why did you not like the game?alecciarosewater wrote:
Favourite thread: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3388
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Killshot47
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Re: <rant> Why I didnt like this game
tight-knit discord groups? I guess some of them, but I'm a super non-social hermit that basically just lurks on the forums because I'm not super interested in conversation (check my post count, no lies here), and I've gotten 3 discord group links dropped on me just by roaming around. I haven't used them, but I mean the people are out there. I played WoW for thousands of hours to the point of getting sick of it and I never returned after WotLK came out, but I always come back to this game with 1 or 2 of my IRL buds. TBH, if you play this game alone, it's a really cumbersome experience. The exploration is interesting but hunting's a lot harder than I remember it from old haven now, progressing alone would probably be crazy hard. But with at least one other person with you, it's a pretty good experience IMO. It's super chill, but there's enough "butt-pucker" to satisfy that urge for excitement. Perma-death is always kind of frowned upon if you're not used to it. Some love the thrill and harshness of it, a lot don't. As somebody that just lurks around the forums though, I mean, you're gonna find trolls wherever there's internet, I actually think there's more reasonable people in this community than most, although like I said, I don't really talk to anybody, just purely observation.alecciarosewater wrote:All I want is a game to poke holes in. Why is this so hard to find
Meanwhile the players fragment themselves into small, tight-knit discord groups that hide everything while they plot and scheme against each other.
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Tamalak
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So you just decided to write 4 paragraphs ranting about yourself and MMOs in general instead of Haven or the actual title you posted lmao. The community won't miss a scatterbrained whiner, we prefer focused whiners like shublaalecciarosewater wrote:This is just plain dull to play in a way that can't be put into words easily.Ysh wrote:Ok, but why did you not like the game?