Softcap on tools instead of products

[ErdTod]

Hello!
The idea is to apply softcaps to tool qualities instead of products made with them. I.e. if you equip a bone saw of q 90 with carpentry 10, you'll see a q50 saw in your equip window (of course temporarly) and it gets involved into boards q calculations.
The difference from existing same calculations would be, for example, that such softcap would be also applied to swords and axes. You equip a b12 of q 99 with 1 MC, you get a q50 B12.

This makes sense to me, as even the most exquisite tool would turn useless in unskilled hands.

[loskierek]

would be a becz on high q stuff when even raising by few points takes effort only to be softcapped by a skill

[ErdTod]

On active chars skills are higher than q of tools by an order of magnitude. I.e. quality progression is slower than character.

[loskierek]

only applies to villages, hermits like me sometimes have certain skills lagging behind due to necessity. For example my mason is behind cause i am over the cap on anything i can find so far, should i be punished by tool softcap making me waste more energy? and like you said for bigger places it could be pointless as they would always be ahead of spiraling while a hermit would suffer and fall behind even more

[Sevenless]

The problem is the people who benefit from "exploiting" high Q tools are the people who impact the world's balance the least. The use cases for alts with high Q tools/weapons is incredibly narrow. Why are you trying to punish them, what's the point?

[ErdTod]

The problem is the people who benefit from "exploiting" high Q tools are the people who impact the world's balance the least. The use cases for alts with high Q tools/weapons is incredibly narrow. Why are you trying to punish them, what's the point?

The skills already are used to softcap q together with tools for most of stuff, i.e. carpentry is already used to cap boards. Such change would just add some few tools, but most importantly - weapons. I suggest that because I feel it's weird that a character unskilled with close combat weapons deals same damage as a skilled one.

[Sevenless]

The problem is the people who benefit from "exploiting" high Q tools are the people who impact the world's balance the least. The use cases for alts with high Q tools/weapons is incredibly narrow. Why are you trying to punish them, what's the point?

The skills already are used to softcap q together with tools for most of stuff, i.e. carpentry is already used to cap boards. Such change would just add some few tools, but most importantly - weapons. I suggest that because I feel it's weird that a character unskilled with close combat weapons deals same damage as a skilled one.

If it's mostly about weapons, that's more understandable. I'm still not sure it's necessary because strength still plays an important factor.

I don't think it should ever be applied to tools though.

[Aceb]

Unnecessary. It affects the lowest tier of people who are the lowest already. No point hitting'em more. Not to say it would confuse A LOT of people.

[sabinati]

The problem is the people who benefit from "exploiting" high Q tools are the people who impact the world's balance the least. The use cases for alts with high Q tools/weapons is incredibly narrow. Why are you trying to punish them, what's the point?

The skills already are used to softcap q together with tools for most of stuff, i.e. carpentry is already used to cap boards. Such change would just add some few tools, but most importantly - weapons. I suggest that because I feel it's weird that a character unskilled with close combat weapons deals same damage as a skilled one.

only if they have an opening on their opponent