It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a life

Thoughts on the further development of Haven & Hearth? Feel free to opine!
terechgracz
Posts: 914
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:06 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by terechgracz »

I think the answer to this infinite grind would be retweaking whole attribute skill and quality mechanic in such way that they would raise asymptotically to some fixed value, somewhat like in WURM ONLINE, there is visible end game where you can finally start raiding and having fun. In haven you can't because if you lose once you end forever.
ImageImageImage
ImageImageImageImage
JOIN THE OFFICIAL H&H DISCORD TODAY
♰ FORUM MODERATOR 02.01.2024 - 05.10.2024 ♰
Fierce_Deity
Posts: 783
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:11 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by Fierce_Deity »

Myeah I think questing needs a loose time gate system to it. Quest rewards could have a limited pool per character that regenerates each day, up to a certain limit. For example, everyone has a LP pool of 300k, but it regenerates at 25k a day. Or the hunger has a maximum pool of 200% reduction, but regenerates at 25% a day. Something like this could work. Makes it less mandatory to quest to feel competitive.
User avatar
ChildhoodObesity
Posts: 4165
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:16 am

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by ChildhoodObesity »

i think the need for questing is very exaggerated, it isnt necessary to remain competitive, or at least not as much questing is required as people claim. i think there should be some kind of advantage to playing a lot more than other people otherwise you run out of things to do due to the timegates, rng and such in place!!
User avatar
bmjclark
Posts: 4053
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:40 am
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by bmjclark »

Satiations are honestly awful for this too. Can't log on for a day? Well, you just missed out on a day of having your satiations regen. At least before (legacy, even last world with broken symbel) you could just eat food to your hearts content. Now you're very much time gated (and rng gated for that matter).
Cajoes wrote:I was the murder victim your guy aggro'd. And slew. Entirely unprovoked. Rather handily at that. Which prompted the retaliatory party. That you also handily slew.
User avatar
Colin500
Posts: 1018
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:07 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by Colin500 »

>add endless quests to the game that reward players with LP and Hunger reduction (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add study desk so that people can at least fill it with curios and forget about their studies for a moment (-few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add credos that almost feel like they are endless due to increasing amount of quests that have to be done each time (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add more birds (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add more credos (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>nerf food system so that more food is needed to gain stats thus forcing people to do quests for hunger reduction (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>nerf satiations (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>implement less frequent but longer lags due to hardware change tis not a bug but a feature(+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add more birds (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>consider job done
>people quit game
jorbtar wrote:Image
Last edited by Colin500 on Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:40 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Potjeh
Posts: 11825
Joined: Fri May 29, 2009 4:03 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by Potjeh »

Infinite stat growth is the real problem. People that have lives tend to take breaks from games, and that is severely punished when there's infinite stat growth.
Image Bottleneck
User avatar
Frantianno228
Posts: 162
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:14 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by Frantianno228 »

What do you wait boi? Study curios inside your palisade and be top?
If you wanna have a good character please leave your walls and do some quests
Theres such thing in every game like that. In WOW u need do dungeons/local quests to raise your artifact, in Albion u need farm mobs to have 400/400 masteries, in minecraft u need leave your dirt house to kill some mobs so u can enchant ur sword.
My discord -> Frantianno#0620
My youtube channel ->
User avatar
Ozzy123
Posts: 2483
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:27 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by Ozzy123 »

ChildhoodObesity wrote:i think the need for questing is very exaggerated, it isnt necessary to remain competitive, or at least not as much questing is required as people claim. i think there should be some kind of advantage to playing a lot more than other people otherwise you run out of things to do due to the timegates, rng and such in place!!
You say that because you are a quester xd
epicbuds wrote:just got this game a bad review on my website and will post on every forum and game page i can think of to tell people to stay away from this site this game is a joke
viruseg wrote:Kill all new players for no reason. Polish scum came running and killed me with a crowd. Suck fuck fucks..
User avatar
Ozzy123
Posts: 2483
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:27 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by Ozzy123 »

Frantianno228 wrote:What do you wait boi? Study curios inside your palisade and be top?
If you wanna have a good character please leave your walls and do some quests
Theres such thing in every game like that. In WOW u need do dungeons/local quests to raise your artifact, in Albion u need farm mobs to have 400/400 masteries, in minecraft u need leave your dirt house to kill some mobs so u can enchant ur sword.
Come on frantianno you were supposed to not drink today.. Noone cares about leaving the village, people hate questing itself.
epicbuds wrote:just got this game a bad review on my website and will post on every forum and game page i can think of to tell people to stay away from this site this game is a joke
viruseg wrote:Kill all new players for no reason. Polish scum came running and killed me with a crowd. Suck fuck fucks..
User avatar
Frantianno228
Posts: 162
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:14 pm

Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Post by Frantianno228 »

Ozzy123 wrote:
Frantianno228 wrote:What do you wait boi? Study curios inside your palisade and be top?
If you wanna have a good character please leave your walls and do some quests
Theres such thing in every game like that. In WOW u need do dungeons/local quests to raise your artifact, in Albion u need farm mobs to have 400/400 masteries, in minecraft u need leave your dirt house to kill some mobs so u can enchant ur sword.
Come on frantianno you were supposed to not drink today.. Noone cares about leaving the village, people hate questing itself.
Yes i hate questing 2, but this game is a little bit boring without it!
My discord -> Frantianno#0620
My youtube channel ->

Return to “Critique & Ideas”