Do Not Normalize It.

Hasta · Post by **Hasta** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:23 am

People who take pleasure in making other people miserable are not normal.

NO, it's not because "butthurt much?".
NO, it's not because "It's just a game deal with it".
NO, it's not because "git good".

People who take pleasure in making other people miserable have deep psychoogical problems; the fact that they are venting in online games is a positive thing, but it is not normal. Don't normalise "griefing".

If you do things just for the perceived pleasure of other people disliking these things - you are not normal.
If the pleasure is multiplied whenever you can actually observe a person's grief, you are actually disfunctional and should probably seek help for the sake of your close and loved ones.

I "get" that this is a "game mechanic", I don't mind being griefed and whatnot.
I just have to say that THIS IS NOT NORMAL. This is our reality now, but THIS IS NOT NORMAL. Keep that in mind, always.

borka · Post by **borka** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:46 am

Hasta wrote:People who take pleasure in making other people miserable are not normal.

I just have to say that THIS IS NOT NORMAL. This is our reality now, but THIS IS NOT NORMAL. Keep that in mind, always.

Full Ack !

terechgracz · Post by **terechgracz** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:00 am

Hasta wrote:People who take pleasure in making other people miserable have deep psychoogical problems;

Why you assume they do it to make you feel bad? Maybe their goal isn't to make you miserable, mb they just want your gear, or they want you to move out.

Hasta · Post by **Hasta** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:11 am

terechgracz wrote:
Hasta wrote:People who take pleasure in making other people miserable have deep psychoogical problems;
Why you assume they do it to make you feel bad?

As I have explicitly clarified, I do not "assume" anything, this is not related to anything that happened in-game, I just had some free time and decided it was time to start the "THIS IS NOT NORMAL" campaign here. Because, let's be real here for a moment, the things that I've described -- are not normal. No matter the circumstances, reasoning or consequences -- they are not.

And -- just for you, my little grenish friend -- if a character have enough skills to grief a base barely a week into new world, he doesn't want "things", he aims to grief. Don't consider everyone else stupid =)

Hasta · Post by **Hasta** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:16 am

If we're geting into details here -- griefing is so normalized in this commuity, that it became an equal and validated part of it. This is not normal. Just think about it: it's in the name. "Grifers" are not normal people, yet they get to have a say in wherever the game developement goes. *shrugs* I, again, dont mind -- as long as everyone have an equal chance to bash in somene's head; but don't even for a second consider that it's a "normal thing".

tyrtix · Post by **tyrtix** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:21 am

Hasta wrote:If we're geting into details here -- griefing is so normalized in this commuity, that it became an equal and validated part of it. This is not normal. Just think about it: it's in the name. "Grifers" are not normal people, yet they get to have a say in wherever the game developement goes. *shrugs* I, again, dont mind -- as long as everyone have an equal chance to bash in somene's head; but don't even for a second consider that it's a "normal thing".

+1, griefers have serious problems sometimes. I got one in day 2, bashed most of my things just because, emptied crates around, picked nothing, then tried to bash down a freshly made timber house (wich took him like 40 min. before giving out). If you believe this is "normal", you prolly are one of those who make those things and enjoy them. To be honest, the game mechanics regards these things are pretty silly: i won't let anyone pick my stuff if i'm around, but here? can't do anything to prevent that. This should change.

bmjclark · Post by **bmjclark** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:21 am

I bet they take great pleasure in the fact that they made you make this post

MightySheep · Post by **MightySheep** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:40 am

How is it not normal? It is basic human nature. Every kid on the internet is a toxic griefer by default then eventually has to learn to grow out of it (or not). Everyone throughout time always have to have someone beneath them to shit on, whether its jews or blacks or sprucies. It's just a game deal with it and git gud.

rye130 · Post by **rye130** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:53 am

I saw a little kid destroy a sand castle at the beach the other day. THIS IS NOT NORMAL. He should be euthanized.

The_Blode · Post by **The_Blode** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:16 am

Far more 'normal' than you may realize, there's a reason people were happiest in smaller communities

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