@Loftar: Java vs Flash

[VowOfSilence]

Just curious: Why did you pick Java over Flash for HH?

I do some coding myself, but i lack any knowledge of technical details.
The only downsides of Flash that i know of is that it only supports TCP, and that it doesn't really support any graphics acceleration.

[loftar]

Wow. Where do I start? Flash suxx0rs. There.

• Flash is proprietary. Java is open (source, even).
• Flash needs to run in a web browser, Java does not (and Haven doesn't).
• Flash needs a special (proprietary) development environment. I can write Java in Emacs and compile it in a terminal.
• Flash is the scourge of the web and deserves to burn in bit hell for it.

I cannot even speak for any technical advantages of Java over Flash, because Flash doesn't deserve me examining it closely enough to know any technical details about it.

[VowOfSilence]

• Flash needs a special (proprietary) development environment. I can write Java in Emacs and compile it in a terminal.

You don't need Flash to write code, the most popular alternative seems to be Flash Develop:
http://www.flashdevelop.org

The Flash Player itself is closed source, i think... not sure, tho

[sabinati]

yeah man i do some flash development and it blows.

[kaka]

Let's not forget the amazing Flash support on Linux.

[Chakravanti]

I never really liked Java that much....but when you cast it against flash well...that's like saying smokeless tobacco is a good thing just because it carries a relatively minuscule set of health risks compared to smoking.

[loftar]

I never really liked Java that much....

Oh, certainly. I despise Java with a passion. :) It doesn't come close to what I think of Flash, though. I can hardly even joke about that.

[sabinati]

are there really any viable alternatives for coding the client?

[Chakravanti]

are there really any viable alternatives for coding the client?

C++ like most game manufacturers?

If I were a programmer I do it in pearl just to spite the windoze gaming community.

[loftar]

C++ like most game manufacturers?

You speak as if C++ were good for anything. :)

I use Java because of its cross-platform capabilities and ease of running, obviously; which is one of the few really good things that can be said about Java.

If I were to do the client all over again, I'd probably use it as an excuse to play with ABCL. :)