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Ricu
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
thank god shubla's bots dont know how to use bows
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Kearn
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
maybe you just shouldnt be able to initiate combat relations if you or the target is on a ship? i dunno what im talking about
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shubla
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
That is true, but of course these people who go around in knarrs killing noobs (which 90% of player population consists of) don't want their fun ruined.loftar wrote:It was my impression from multiple sources that knarr combat has always been cancer in all situations due to this mechanic, so we figured it was worth trying.jordancoles wrote:Shubla's tactic only really works on scrubs with no armor and yet the entire boat combat system needed to be kneecapped because of it?
But I agree that the current fix is kind of stupid. Why not make it so only captain can attack from boats?

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jordancoles
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
Knarr combat is cancer but the counterplay is to just run inland smhloftar wrote:It was my impression from multiple sources that knarr combat has always been cancer in all situations due to this mechanic, so we figured it was worth trying.jordancoles wrote:Shubla's tactic only really works on scrubs with no armor and yet the entire boat combat system needed to be kneecapped because of it?
The real change to boats should have been to allow the driver to attack normally while the passengers could not. Knar combat was scary because 10 people could hit you with stings/cleaves instantly, 1 attacker is manageable
Blanketing the restrictions across all boaters just makes the game worse for everyone
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
Well, frankly, the idea was that it's kind of weird that you can attack from 15 meters away just because you're on a knarr, and if that's the idea, there should be no exception for the helmsman. I also didn't mind shutting down knarr hunting. As Jorb already said, though, it's not like we're strictly against making that change, but I don't think this situation is broken enough that we can't wait until the next patch and see how it plays out. Initial complaints are often overstated.shubla wrote:Why not make it so only captain can attack from boats?
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
uhhhhh, Whales?
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loftar
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
Again, you can fire bows from ships.abt79 wrote:uhhhhh, Whales?
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bmjclark
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
You guys just made this retarded change over a few spruce caps who could have died to 1 person easily. This is just another retarded change in the name of nerfing bots that just makes the game worse, so grats on that.
You also just made it so the only realistic way to kill whales is to cheese them considering they have 150 armor. I actually don't even know what you guys are thinking
You also just made it so the only realistic way to kill whales is to cheese them considering they have 150 armor. I actually don't even know what you guys are thinking
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shubla
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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
And harpoons, when they get implemented.loftar wrote:Again, you can fire bows from ships.abt79 wrote:uhhhhh, Whales?

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Re: Game Development: Garden Bell
As you consistently chip away at convenience and enjoyment for the average player based on what *feels right* from an outside perspectiveloftar wrote:Well, frankly, the idea was that it's kind of weird that you can attack from 15 meters away just because you're on a knarr, and if that's the idea, there should be no exception for the helmsman. I also didn't mind shutting down knarr hunting.shubla wrote:Why not make it so only captain can attack from boats?
Don't Salem Away this game. Please.
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