I'm awaiting updates~by waiting in other games

[overtyped]

Mazel

I am Mazel is every game

A-Mazel-ing

[_Gunnar]

It seems a little odd that you're saying that what would bring you back to haven is the reimplementation of another game inside it...

[maze]

It seems a little odd that you're saying that what would bring you back to haven is the reimplementation of another game inside it...

I agree to some point~ but i think everyone and their mom has made the cupboard chess board.

TBH I'll be coming back in a few regardless but I'm not sure how I wanna play the game again.
That's my dilemma- J&L are making (my) the ideal game- but what else can we do in the game for fun then just sorta working and stuff?

I know some people go all out trying to make their house pretty
others like hunting players

list goes on and on

[venatorvenator]

I had hopes this would be my oh-so-dreamed spiritual successor to Ultima Online.

Yeah that was somewhat on my mind too.

[overtyped]

I had hopes this would be my oh-so-dreamed spiritual successor to Ultima Online.

Yeah that was somewhat on my mind too.

Games thrive on playing together as a community, even if you aren't grouped, it's nice to see other players going around doing what you are doing.
It's different with haven though. If you are in a village, you might see someone, but if you are a hermit, you may not see a soul, even after weeks.
I think if the world was smaller, It would have that ultima feel, now that it's safe to leave the gate open.
Maybe size of the world based on the average amount of people playing.

[venatorvenator]

I had hopes this would be my oh-so-dreamed spiritual successor to Ultima Online.

Yeah that was somewhat on my mind too.

Games thrive on playing together as a community, even if you aren't grouped, it's nice to see other players going around doing what you are doing.
It's different with haven though. If you are in a village, you might see someone, but if you are a hermit, you may not see a soul, even after weeks.
I think if the world was smaller, It would have that ultima feel, now that it's safe to leave the gate open.
Maybe size of the world based on the average amount of people playing.

I think that's almost the entire issue. Full pvp is ok, but the way it's implemented makes us actively avoid social contact and see new people as threats. The need for auto-hearth for example is a clear sign of our broken social mechanics. The center of the world could have been a very interesting place to meet people and walk around watching them work, but murder is too inconsequential and jorbtar are too stubborn to realize their views on pvp are counterproductive.

[Kelody]

While not a fan of PvP, the possibilities to grief other players go far beyond killing them. This is part of their reasoning for not restricting pvp and murder.

[venatorvenator]

I keep hearing that argument as if murder were the only alternative against griefing. There are other ways to prevent it, counteract it, or dissuade players from it. If devs opened a thread on C&I asking for suggestions on this I bet two carrots it would reach 5 pages at least.

[linkfanpc]

That game is rather excessively grindy IMO.

Hahaha
Do you even know what forum you're on?

[YourTripleH]

Albion? Isnt that heavily p2w? :p

Sure is, and why do you think there's a whole lot of trading websites like those listed below?



Because Albion Online has been always P2W! Visually it's appealing, gameplaywise too, but economically? That's a big NO NO!