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xdragonlord18 · Post by **xdragonlord18** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 am

Jalpha wrote:The Israelis are largely irrelevant to me. I have stronger views in opposition to the christian church honestly.

Be easier if someone posted it but I stated how I'd like to be Russian because Putin supports a strong family model while the west supports turning little boys into little girls. I then said that I know where I would rather bring my kids up.

But like I said earlier in the discord conversation "It is better if they have their space and I have mine." So, enjoy your discord channel.

I mean the homosexual movement is pretty strong right now but I will not support it. Bullying me and slandering my reputation changes nothing in that regard. Be aware you walk a fine line though. I am hoping that you cross it.

Why do you spend so much mental energy caring about trivial things like homosexuals, "a strong family model", Israelis or the Christian church?

loftar · Post by **loftar** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:27 am

Zentetsuken wrote:It's Unofficially Official.

It is not official in any way whatsoever. If you want me off Discord that badly, I couldn't be more happy to oblige. Discord is absolute cancer tech, and I can't wait to nuke every trace of it off my system. I guess this is a good opportunity to post a little reminder about Matrix.

jordancoles · Post by **jordancoles** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:29 am

loftar wrote:I guess this is a good opportunity to post a little reminder about Matrix.

And how is this better?

Burinn · Post by **Burinn** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:30 am

loftar wrote:
Zentetsuken wrote:It's Unofficially Official.
It is not official in any way whatsoever. If you want me off Discord that badly, I couldn't be more happy to oblige. Discord is absolute cancer tech, and I can't wait to nuke every trace of it off my system. I guess this is a good opportunity to post a little reminder about Matrix.

No one wants you off discord or otherwise mainstream easily accessible software. Discord can be shit but there is big value in ease of access. Don't listen to the charlatans. We love you. You're a cool guy.

xdragonlord18 · Post by **xdragonlord18** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:08 am

loftar wrote:
Zentetsuken wrote:It's Unofficially Official.
It is not official in any way whatsoever.

If you will not officially fill the void, someone will. This certainly seems like the unofficial official server.

loftar wrote: Discord is absolute cancer tech, and I can't wait to nuke every trace of it off my system. I guess this is a good opportunity to post a little reminder about Matrix.

Nobody is going to use Matrix because it's a shit communication platform. It doesn't matter what license it's developed under, who owns the servers or which protocol it uses because those are not problems that people have with their communication platforms. Most people want their tools to serve them. Switching to a less popular, more feature poor platform would be them serving their tools.

Post by **MagicManICT** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:20 am

Burinn wrote:
loftar wrote:
Zentetsuken wrote:It's Unofficially Official.
It is not official in any way whatsoever. If you want me off Discord that badly, I couldn't be more happy to oblige. Discord is absolute cancer tech, and I can't wait to nuke every trace of it off my system. I guess this is a good opportunity to post a little reminder about Matrix.
No one wants you off discord or otherwise mainstream easily accessible software. Discord can be shit but there is big value in ease of access. Don't listen to the charlatans. We love you. You're a cool guy.

IRC is just as easy to access as Discord, if not easier. There's even a few phone apps that will connect you to your favorite server with little more effort than connecting to anything Discord related. There's also voice plug-ins and file sharing available with the right IRC tools. What you don't get are in-line image and video posts... but do you really need those unless you're on a phone that can't flip between a browser and another app? (Reason #18 why smartphones generally suck.)

@Zen: Yes, I've Hel'd or locked more than a few posts like that in the past... but did I ban the poster? Not usually unless they're spamming or otherwise being a total asshole at the time. Also, I've only seen a handful of posts for public Discord channels. Someone posted a few once a year or two ago, and then there was another attempt to try to organize some, and then this. And I'll applaud anyone that tries to build a community, whether it's a community of trolls, jokers, serious thinkers, or just lazy ass bums. So take your shit attitude and choke on it.

Jalpha · Post by **Jalpha** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:35 am

xdragonlord18 wrote:Why do you spend so much mental energy caring about trivial things like homosexuals, "a strong family model", Israelis or the Christian church?

Y'all are the factory farmed hens pecking at the conveyor belt of information being fed to you. In so many ways the behaviour of so many people resembles factory farmed hens. I'd go so far as to mention the allegory of the cave but it would do no good.

Zentetsuken · Post by **Zentetsuken** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:03 am

loftar wrote:
Zentetsuken wrote:It's Unofficially Official.
It is not official in any way whatsoever. If you want me off Discord that badly, I couldn't be more happy to oblige. Discord is absolute cancer tech, and I can't wait to nuke every trace of it off my system. I guess this is a good opportunity to post a little reminder about Matrix.

Having you in the unofficially official discord is a blessing.
Nobody wants you to leave except for MagicMan because he hates its status as being totally unofficially official.

MagicManICT wrote: @Zen: Yes, I've Hel'd or locked more than a few posts like that in the past... but did I ban the poster? Not usually unless they're spamming or otherwise being a total asshole at the time. Also, I've only seen a handful of posts for public Discord channels. Someone posted a few once a year or two ago, and then there was another attempt to try to organize some, and then this. And I'll applaud anyone that tries to build a community, whether it's a community of trolls, jokers, serious thinkers, or just lazy ass bums.

I mean, you make it pretty clear that dealing with forum posts at the incredibly slow rate that they come in is a big chore.
I'm pretty sure that everybody would agree that you would act differently in a live chat where a ranting lunatic can post 50 messages a minute.
It's very unrealistic to assume that anybody would sit there and delete (Hel) messages in a chat as fast as they can be made by somebody who needs to be forced to calm down or stop their rant.

MagicManICT wrote:So take your shit attitude and choke on it.

are you okay bud?

Not sure what part of any of my messages called for such an aggressive retort

loftar · Post by **loftar** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:46 pm

jordancoles wrote:And how is this better?

Most importantly, it is decentralized, not beholden to a single entity, uses a standardized, open protocol, has open-source implementations (client- and server-wise), and among those implementations are ones that don't run in a web browser.

dafels · Post by **dafels** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:09 pm

What value do the mods add to the forums anyway... If I would be a moderator, I would be the moderator of moderators, moderating only the moderator actions to keep their petty moderation in check.

I think the devs should not bother with any chat programs at all. It is just a channel for shitters with their shitty ideas and noise. Keep the clutter out of their heads, they are actually producing value to the world and have no time for consumers trying to push their stupid shit in devs faces. It is very dangerous for their creativity.

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