https://www.youtube.com/c/SsethTzeentach/videos
His review style is unique and entertaining, also he does play mostly indie/niche games so Hafen would be a perfect pick as it is both niche and indie game.
Your thoughts.
Because we do need more Haven and Hearth reviews.
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donatas081294
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vatas
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
I've had this thought myself.
Only ideas for actual video is putting stuff like "have you ever wanted to become stronger by eating roasted pig testicles?" For the intro sequence.
Only ideas for actual video is putting stuff like "have you ever wanted to become stronger by eating roasted pig testicles?" For the intro sequence.
Haven and Hearth Wiki (Maintained by volunteers - test/verify when practical. Forum thread
Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)
Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)
Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
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TheServant
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
I do remember when he reviewed ss13 and i was playing it at the time. The pop count skyrocketed, every server full... even sen't him this e-mail.


"Occasionally I drop a teacup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I'm not satisfied when it doesn't gather itself up again. Someday perhaps, a cup will come together."
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MadNomad
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
why would you need a review if you can judge the game yourself after playing it?
it only makes sense if you have not played particular game
have you not played haven and hearth?
it only makes sense if you have not played particular game
have you not played haven and hearth?
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TheServant
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
The idea behind the review is simple, as stated before... it would bring tons of new players.MadNomad wrote:why would you need a review if you can judge the game yourself after playing it?
it only makes sense if you have not played particular game
have you not played haven and hearth?
"Occasionally I drop a teacup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I'm not satisfied when it doesn't gather itself up again. Someday perhaps, a cup will come together."
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wolf1000wolf
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
Fix the new player experience before bringing new players.
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axus
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
Bringing tons of players would be better right around world start. Now would be OK if someone was there to show them around.
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GamingRAM
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
Maybe it'd get Jorb to finally make a better combat system once another big time YouTuber talks shit about it.
And I don't mean tweaking it like he's been doing for the past few years, I mean throwing out the current system and implementing something that isn't counter intuitive. The way combat currently works is you start off doing virtually no damage at the beginning, and then it quickly devolves into insane numbers, and this works both ways so by the time you've learned you're doing something wrong, it's already to late, a single swing from x monster took out 3/4 of your health, and the next hit is basically guaranteed.
And I don't mean tweaking it like he's been doing for the past few years, I mean throwing out the current system and implementing something that isn't counter intuitive. The way combat currently works is you start off doing virtually no damage at the beginning, and then it quickly devolves into insane numbers, and this works both ways so by the time you've learned you're doing something wrong, it's already to late, a single swing from x monster took out 3/4 of your health, and the next hit is basically guaranteed.
World 12: Quit at some point.
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World 11: Community Fair Worker
World 10: Co-Founder of the Northern Kingdom, Resident of Emerald City, Founder and Mayor of the Hole of Glory, RamZ's Art Emporium at CF, Member of the CFL Rams.
World 9: Founder of SnoopVille, Resident of Emerald City
World 7: Hermit and Neighbor to a dead Korean
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Nightdawg
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
This game should not ever be reviewed by people who haven't played it for at least 2+ years, engaged in every mechanic possible (not quitting after achieving a quality 30 bronze swords), understand why someone is better than them and don't make up retarded excuses (stuff like "they gotta be botting everything, there must be a bot that plays the game on its own and gives them some huge exploit advantage" lmao), understand the obscene advantage you get by putting a huge amount of time in the game, which can only be achieved by jobless people or teenagers/students, understand how huge the advantage of playing in larger groups of competent people affects gameplay, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
People who are not biased/inexperienced.
Why am I saying this?
A new player, no matter if they're some giga chad ultra hardcore gamer that played games for 50 years OR are some casual person stumbling upon it, will have this reaction:
- Yo cool 2.5d game, nice
- A boar attacked me, why do I do absolutely no damage to them when punching back? what the fuck is a sidestep? what are those weird icons popping up when it attacks me? what are those dance moves representing (the things we call combat colors that are retarded in the vanilla client), and why am I forced to walk speed, how do I regain my stamina?
- Why did my house disappear, I've just built it yesterday and now it's gone? (hasn't discovered claims and decay yet)
- Damn, there's so much depth in this game, I mean farming takes so many days, there's gotta be lots of things.
- I wonder how to start mining, i've been playing for 2 weeks.
- I checked the forum, there are posts from 3+ years ago suggesting having over 50 stats to fight bats, let's hope I don't die.
- Yooooo some player told me unless I want to be crippled, there's custom clients with basic features that are mandatory to use, which are straight up missing from the core client, dope.
- Damn there's a huge thread with 100+ tips and tricks (90% outdated) on how to play this game! Sweet!
- Someone attacked me and my game closed? said something about nVidia?
And lots of other things like this. Should a player like this leave a review? I mean sure, both OG players and new players can agree that this game is super duper NOT new-user friendly. But the new players can't see how much this game improved over the years, granted at an ultra low rate, but still.
If anything, a new player reviewing this game will either hurt it super bad, or bring in a few people that will 99% quit after 2 weeks cause they can't be arsed with the tedium and how long it takes to learn a game with so much depth.
And if they join the cringe faction driven unmoderated "unofficial" official HnH discord, they'll be pushed away.
People who are not biased/inexperienced.
Why am I saying this?
A new player, no matter if they're some giga chad ultra hardcore gamer that played games for 50 years OR are some casual person stumbling upon it, will have this reaction:
- Yo cool 2.5d game, nice
- A boar attacked me, why do I do absolutely no damage to them when punching back? what the fuck is a sidestep? what are those weird icons popping up when it attacks me? what are those dance moves representing (the things we call combat colors that are retarded in the vanilla client), and why am I forced to walk speed, how do I regain my stamina?
- Why did my house disappear, I've just built it yesterday and now it's gone? (hasn't discovered claims and decay yet)
- Damn, there's so much depth in this game, I mean farming takes so many days, there's gotta be lots of things.
- I wonder how to start mining, i've been playing for 2 weeks.
- I checked the forum, there are posts from 3+ years ago suggesting having over 50 stats to fight bats, let's hope I don't die.
- Yooooo some player told me unless I want to be crippled, there's custom clients with basic features that are mandatory to use, which are straight up missing from the core client, dope.
- Damn there's a huge thread with 100+ tips and tricks (90% outdated) on how to play this game! Sweet!
- Someone attacked me and my game closed? said something about nVidia?
And lots of other things like this. Should a player like this leave a review? I mean sure, both OG players and new players can agree that this game is super duper NOT new-user friendly. But the new players can't see how much this game improved over the years, granted at an ultra low rate, but still.
If anything, a new player reviewing this game will either hurt it super bad, or bring in a few people that will 99% quit after 2 weeks cause they can't be arsed with the tedium and how long it takes to learn a game with so much depth.
And if they join the cringe faction driven unmoderated "unofficial" official HnH discord, they'll be pushed away.
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noindyfikator
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Re: What if SsethTzeentach reviewed Haven and Hearth?
xDNightdawg wrote: - Someone attacked me and my game closed? said something about nVidia?