Working on a new client

[iamahh]

join the Modders discord, may find something there

it's dead discord

if you want memes and chitchat, yes

but if you want to search the backlog or ask something, may be useful

[Procne]

How exactly do you want to split it into modules and then keep maintaining and merging in the changes made by loftar in default client?

[Limitless0]

You're right, it wouldn't be automatic.
And the JOGL betas straight up don't work, so If I want to actually play the game I have to move to a different framework.
So I guess the short answer is: I don't expect to merge loftars changes very easily

[noindyfikator]

Do you know it will be like a full time job to make something really useable?

[Procne]

I was actually thinking of using aspect J to "inject" or straight up replace logic in default client without having to touch the default code. It'd be insanely hacky and quite nasty (I hate aspect programming, especially when about to use it for anything more than someboilerplate stuff like logging, but in this case I see it as lesser evil), but if you make some nice "hooks" this way you would be able to add your own tweaks, and not worry about merging loftar's changes that much.

[noindyfikator]

Looks like u better leave this project if you want to add aspects to Hafen code xD

[vatas]

Wonder if it would be more cost-effective to spend the time on freelance coding instead, and use that money to buy Loftar the specific type of Mac he would need to test/compile the Mac version?

[Limitless0]

I've been messing around with code, and here's what's new:

JOGL straight up doesn't work. I've spent many, many hours trying to make it work. Short of becoming an active maintainer for JOGL, there's nothing I can do.
I'm going to spend the next day or so messing around with LWJGL, as I've never used it before. Then I'll come back, see if I can get something running, and decide where to go from there.

What I am not going to do is give Loftar money for a Mac and hope he makes a usable client. JOGL is broken, he'd have to rewrite it too. I'm also not going to add aspects to the client code.

I am not 100% sure on sharing my source code either. I could be convinced, but for what is looking like a huge project I'd like to maintain some sort of ownership over it, you know?

[Nightdawg]

What I am not going to do is give Loftar money for a Mac and hope he makes a usable client.

It's ok, he's trying his best with the current one.

[Limitless0]

It's ok, he's trying his best with the current one.

You miss my point, JOGL itself is broken for the new Macs, if he wanted to get the client working on them he'd have to either contribute to JOGL or migrate to some other library. Both of which are time intensive options that have no immediate upside apart from client works on tiny percentage more computers now.