We both know that you're actually mad I didn't say vs youSnuggleSnail wrote:Trollex hasn't even played in a PVP group since world 13, which may as well mean world 12 since world 13 wasn't real.springyb wrote:competitive squad based quest to beat/help Trollex
You hermit retards will literally latch onto any piece of info that you hear from 1 unvetted person 1 time and treat it like gospel in arguments against people directly involved with the thing ur arguing about
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springyb
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SnuggleSnail
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ur so out of touch with the pvp culture of this game u don't even know what to say to ragebait yet you feel the need to shit out your opinions with an authoritative tone
qualified to be a third dev
qualified to be a third dev
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whateverisfine
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i spent time replying solely cause jorb is paying attention to the game again. its quite annoying seeing people who know nothing about what they are saying try to give impactful suggestions without proper experience and when one do waste his time explaining i have to read this bs. i gave you a lot of evidence, explained why this and that and you couldn't bring anything to the table or refute any argument. i was hopping for you to actually understand. and you just shitpost. now you are saying exactly what i was saying when trying to explain to you that the game wasnt about stats which was your main point. third post in a row you contradict yourself or something like that.FaithfulToadd wrote:Wow-wee, that's a lot of big feelings there. I bet that post felt good to write.whateverisfine wrote:[Wall of text]
you claimed that in "every instance it boils down to stats being higher" then transitioned that stat matter now you show you have zero experience.. i swear to god, you see jorb wake up from coma and decide to keep the flow of hermits talking nosense while this other guy say hes the biggest fan. if you care about pvp, learn it first then make suggestions, if no, just dont pvp...
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by 'transitioned that stat matter now you show you have zero experience.' I didn't say I had zero experience, did I? I do care about PvP in games in general; however, my many experiences with Haven since 2011 onward (Think: World 5 and later) resulted in me adapting skills that have nothing to do with having an open combat relation. I spend most of my time avoiding getting PKed because I know I have no shot at taking out someone in the wilderness. Survival requires a combination of well-developed game knowledge and genuine, practiced, skills. Running is a skill, too, despite you folks acting like it's all 'common sense' and so-forth.
Now, we'll have to get on friendlier terms if you want to discuss this in earnest. I'm not going to be condescended to for the entire discussion.
Yes, its skills, game knowledge, practice, drink and run, movement, all the good stuff, hope i helped shatter your illusion about pvp being about stats bots all that conspiracy stuff. when i started playing this game few years ago i liked it a lot so naturally i did some research cause it was a great game for me. so i learn and ask questions instead of whining on forums like 99% ppl here do. i dont deny theres toxic community and a lot of retards but you dont need to engage any of this to have fun if you do enjoy pvp.
you dont need to tryhard and spend 24/7 playing the game, i have wife job social life, this is my current char. so good advice if you do like pvp as you said spend some time practicing valhalla then come back here and give a relevant feedback.

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springyb
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I'm proud of that though that shit is toxic and honestly fucking weirdo thing to care about from a fish who brags about taking the bait.SnuggleSnail wrote:ur so out of touch with the pvp culture of this game u don't even know what to say to ragebait yet you feel the need to shit out your opinions with an authoritative tone
More people that ever read through this will understand what I meant then will ever care about who you think the main character of whatever fantasy social role play you have going is
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SnuggleSnail
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Xir, if you were trolling you wouldn't say you're trolling. This face saving method has never worked on anybody older than 13
If being wrong about something nobody cares about matters so much to you, you could just not confidently talk about things you don't know about
If being wrong about something nobody cares about matters so much to you, you could just not confidently talk about things you don't know about
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springyb
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You picked a fight with me please stop pretending I care about the details. But now I'm kinda wondering how or why you'd choose to read my posts in an authoritative tone. Except for the part about you being madSnuggleSnail wrote:Xir, if you were trolling you wouldn't say you're trolling. This face saving method has never worked on anybody older than 13
If being wrong about something nobody cares about matters so much to you, you could just not confidently talk about things you don't know about
As a peace offering I am willing to edit *any worlds that you want credit for on the condition you agree that you were, in fact, mad your name wasn't there.
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MightySheep
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You mean Hurricane? The public client? Why would you be using default client? I never understood the argument about default client. Everyone on WoW uses curseforge add ons, everyone on runescape uses runelight. Why are we talking about default haven vs "custom client" every 2 seconds on forum? Just download Hurricane like every other player and stop using it as a pathetic excuse.springyb wrote:There is the heavily modded custom client version of Haven
Holy fuck youre both boring and clueless. I honestly think you have probably spent more time writing about PvP than actually trying to learn it in the game. Tell me I'm wrong. Why is it a uniquely haven thing for people to join this game, not even do 1 single spar or read 1 single guide then feel the need to write essays about what they think the problem with the current system is.FaithfulToadd wrote:[Wall of text]
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There is no mental gymnastics when I say we would win at most sandbox pvp mmos vs someone like this archipenos. Im not saying I cant tryhard I said there is no need to tryhard in Haven because its a very casual playerbase. If other people were turbonerding then maybe I would too if I felt it was necessary. Thats besides the point though, that only applies to real players whereas Im currently speaking to forum whiners and roleplayers who only write about pvp. I dont believe there is any scenario where such people are going to be relevant in any game because of a simple difference in mentality. You just make excuses and cope about why you cant compete. These excuses can be ticked off 1 by 1 like the client etc and you will just invent new ones to take their place. The end result is for whatever reason you simply cant pvp, idk why were pretending some tweak to the pvp system would change that.
You say you want to "improve" the pvp system but youre not actually saying anything constructive, youre primarily just whining and saying wrong things due to lack of experience. Im not "interfering" with any suggestions for improvement- I'm mostly just correcting you when you say incorrect and dumb things which is most of the time.
Here is mine:whateverisfine wrote:1k stats

Grinding stats is boring and makes barely any difference in team fights.
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JohnBender
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So 30 euro is price for entry to Haven pvp. Finally, an honest response. Thanks, you catered to, antisocial dipshit.SnuggleSnail wrote:I haven't made a single piece of food, crafted a single curio, or built a single piece of infrastructure this world. Somebody just PMs me a login when there is a fight. I've probably killed more 'real' people this world than most fighters do in their entire career.FaithfulToadd wrote:That is a bald-faced lie, sir.
Am I playing casually? You could buy a similar character for 30 euro and do the same lol
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MightySheep
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You guys keep saying anti social yet you cant seem to speak normally without frothing at the mouth. Post your time played this world, I'm betting you no-life harder but you just bad
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Lurux
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Re: Content deny strategy
Steelmaking is entirely bot based - bots which are only found in private clients - mainly (not exclusively) owned by the PVP factions.
Steel is required to participate in somewhat equal pvp a couple of weeks in. So steel is in general one of those elements which is limiting pvp for a more general audience.
Steel is required to participate in somewhat equal pvp a couple of weeks in. So steel is in general one of those elements which is limiting pvp for a more general audience.