Content deny strategy

whateverisfine · Post by **whateverisfine** » Tue Feb 10, 2026 7:43 pm

Lurux wrote:Steelmaking is entirely bot based - bots which are only found in private clients - mainly (not exclusively) owned by the PVP factions.
Steel is required to participate in somewhat equal pvp a couple of weeks in. So steel is in general one of those elements which is limiting pvp for a more general audience.

its public, another retard spreading misinformation, all hermits deserve to die and sieged

FaithfulToadd · Post by **FaithfulToadd** » Tue Feb 10, 2026 10:50 pm

au revoir

Archipenos · Post by **Archipenos** » Tue Feb 10, 2026 11:14 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:ur so out of touch with the pvp culture of this game

My village mate and I left our base because of its proximity to that dastardly PvP village. While leaving we had to sneak past their base and it was very, very exciting. Anyways, we snuck past and it was awesome. Down the shore a ways, we spotted a naked afk at the end of a river. Then another. Then another. Then another. But wait! We could have used deep ocean to not be seen! But wait! We were told only noobs travel in deep ocean because you need to be able to get to shore to pretend to run from the PvPer! Turns out they were multiboxing custom clients with the alarm sound turned on for a player entering map. They had used custom clients and multiple accounts to create radar, essentially. Then, despite maybe a ten minute lead, using their much faster boat, they caught up to us. I was a few minutes ahead. They killed my friend, then, seeing we were in rowboats, assumed our course (only one viable high seas crossing in that direction) and found me and our new base. They threw all of our loot in the ocean and came back every night for a few days to break the new claim. All of this was only possible because they were multiboxing custom clients. None of the information they acted on was "earned."

You're the one who is divorced from pvp culture, at least from the perspective of the normal player. To you, custom clienting/multiboxing is just how it goes. To me, that is fucking cheating. Now they lost 2 subs to preserve 1 sub. IE they lost money by allowing people to openly cheat. Believe me, its not strictly custom client i'm whining about here, but the multiboxing customs to create an alarm system over the entire continent's river exits. That's 1. insanely high effort, and 2. giving them what amounts to map/wall hacks in other PvP games. That is the dogshit you defend. I thought it was all low effort and casual? Lemme tell you, if low effort is running two dozen clients to create a networks of afk bot spies, i'm fucking zero effort.

SnuggleSnail · Post by **SnuggleSnail** » Tue Feb 10, 2026 11:52 pm

what does you getting fucked up by ainran have to do with springyb pretending to be an insider

it seems to me like you're just one of those people that can't handle losing, and will complain about whatever's convenient as a coping mechanism

Archipenos · Post by **Archipenos** » Tue Feb 10, 2026 11:56 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:what does you getting fucked up by ainran have to do with springyb pretending to be an insider

You never actually reply. You strawman. We all see it. Address what I said or reply to someone else.

MightySheep · Post by **MightySheep** » Wed Feb 11, 2026 12:41 am

The funny thing about ainran is they are exactly the type of players who prove everything these guys say wrong. They have very low stats normally and they bully 90% of the playerbase and there's nothing any high tier pvpers can really do to them because they know how easy it is to escape. They are borderline impossible to gank.

Faithfultoad you're so honestly so out of touch with how pvp actually works that it's boring to have a discussion. I can't imagine getting this worked up about something I don't understand. Why dont u see if somebody will invite u to a group fight or something then u might have the bare minimum understanding to speak on the topic and ur essays will start making sense

FaithfulToadd · Post by **FaithfulToadd** » Wed Feb 11, 2026 1:23 am

au revoir

surfpen1 · Post by **surfpen1** » Wed Feb 11, 2026 2:06 am

Archipenos wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:ur so out of touch with the pvp culture of this game
My village mate and I left our base because of its proximity to that dastardly PvP village. While leaving we had to sneak past their base and it was very, very exciting. Anyways, we snuck past and it was awesome. Down the shore a ways, we spotted a naked afk at the end of a river. Then another. Then another. Then another. But wait! We could have used deep ocean to not be seen! But wait! We were told only noobs travel in deep ocean because you need to be able to get to shore to pretend to run from the PvPer! Turns out they were multiboxing custom clients with the alarm sound turned on for a player entering map. They had used custom clients and multiple accounts to create radar, essentially. Then, despite maybe a ten minute lead, using their much faster boat, they caught up to us. I was a few minutes ahead. They killed my friend, then, seeing we were in rowboats, assumed our course (only one viable high seas crossing in that direction) and found me and our new base. They threw all of our loot in the ocean and came back every night for a few days to break the new claim. All of this was only possible because they were multiboxing custom clients. None of the information they acted on was "earned."

You're the one who is divorced from pvp culture, at least from the perspective of the normal player. To you, custom clienting/multiboxing is just how it goes. To me, that is fucking cheating. Now they lost 2 subs to preserve 1 sub. IE they lost money by allowing people to openly cheat. Believe me, its not strictly custom client i'm whining about here, but the multiboxing customs to create an alarm system over the entire continent's river exits. That's 1. insanely high effort, and 2. giving them what amounts to map/wall hacks in other PvP games. That is the dogshit you defend. I thought it was all low effort and casual? Lemme tell you, if low effort is running two dozen clients to create a networks of afk bot spies, i'm fucking zero effort.

Competitive play is truly broken and is in great need.
Is this what the the exploiters expect me to behave like when they say 'git gud?' Ew.

springyb · Post by **springyb** » Wed Feb 11, 2026 9:32 am

MightySheep wrote:You mean Hurricane? The public client? Why would you be using default client? I never understood the argument about default client. Everyone on WoW uses curseforge add ons, everyone on runescape uses runelight. Why are we talking about default haven vs "custom client" every 2 seconds on forum? Just download Hurricane like every other player and stop using it as a pathetic excuse.

I have, am, and always will be pro PvP. Yeah Hurricane client is great it's clear Nightdawg puts a lot of effort into it. However, you are arguing against hallucinated opinions my shitpost had nothing to do with so I honestly don't know what you're bonging about.

MightySheep · Post by **MightySheep** » Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:22 am

surfpen1 wrote:
Archipenos wrote:the multiboxing to create an alarm system over the entire continent's river exits. That's 1. insanely high effort, and 2. giving them what amounts to map/wall hacks in other PvP games. That is the dogshit you defend. I thought it was all low effort and casual? Lemme tell you, if low effort is running two dozen clients to create a networks of afk bot spies, i'm fucking zero effort.
Competitive play is truly broken and is in great need.
Is this what the the exploiters expect me to behave like when they say 'git gud?' Ew.

Lol. Ainran does this every world they live on an Island and put naked alt everywhere. They currently live in south Midgard and have alt on like 8 different thingwalls.

You could technically do that in almost any pvp game tbh, ppl complain about it in Albion etc. Not sure Id call it 'competitive play'. Its 1 group of ppl with a particular type of autism who have actively avoided any kind of PvP for many worlds. They just bully bottom of the barrel types who refuse to learn the absolute basics, so in essence they are really doing the lords work and Im all for it. I saw some other hermit recently called Truesight he said he is new to the game but he have good gear and seemed to know wat hes doing, he is an example of someone Ainran wouldnt gank, despite it being his 2nd world apparently. So its really just a problem of you guys being bad.

FaithfulToadd wrote:while I'm relatively new to posting on the forums, I am not new to the game, or new to PvP.

You clearly are though. Can you prove otherwise? Got any video or screenshot or anything? I dont believe youre some experienced player and yet your post so full of wrong information, ur a fraud

FaithfulToadd wrote:... All I did was express support for ideas from other long-standing community members

Not true. You have wrote probably about 10 essays by this point about what you think the problem with PvP is. You cant just now deflect it by saying your opinion isnt your own and name dropping some shitters