That's neither a critique nor an idea so I'm leaning towards deeming this a Bug.
Cave Hermit credo repeatedly asks me to study Dark Effigy that is unobtainable solo without purchasing the Rage skill that in w16.1 prohibits passing throuh gates while in combat and therefore is quite undesirable.
There can be arguments:
1. Drop the quest;
2. Trade for an Effigy;
Counter-arguments:
1. The quest appeared several times so it's really unfair compared to all the other credos in their relation to required actions NOT being locked behind such a dividing skill as Rage;
2. Trading would require interaction with a player that, inherent to the trade subject, would most likely have Rage; Cave Hermit credo has "hermit" in it's name; so no, trading is an unfair option as well.
TL;DR
Cave Hermit credo sets up unfair requirement to either acquire Rage or to interact with people with Rage contrary to the very nature of a Cave Hermit.
please fix.
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SnuggleSnail
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Re: Cave Hermit credo soft-locked behind Rage
2019
you can't make this shit up they're actually retarded
- implement an incentive to not buy rage
- massively nerf fast travel
- spawn everybody on different continents
- a million edge cases where not having rage is annoying for regular players
- a million edge cases that makes not having rage INSANELY OP and unfun in PVP
- noobs dying because they unknowingly buy rage
- shitters not engaging with PVP in spite of interest because buying rage permanently """ruins""" their character
- titan rageless chars make sieges absurd
- faction conflict boring, and exceptionally rare
- when there are fights, they're low quality and full of rageless fighters
- nobody tracks criminals, takes too long to travel / everybody spread out
- no major markets
- universally hated world
- remove incentive to not buy rage
- massively buff fast travel
- spawn everybody on the same continent
- regular faction fights 3-4 months into the world
- criminals regularly tracked
- way more new players and shitters involved in faction fights
- multiple large markets
- universally beloved world
- implement an incentive to not buy rage
- massively nerf fast travel
- spawn everybody on different continents
- literally 1:1 ALL of the same issues as 2019, not a single thing fixed or lesson learned
you can't make this shit up they're actually retarded
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Regulus2424
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Re: Cave Hermit credo soft-locked behind Rage
pretty sure you can also get this quest on mystic, wandering sage and scholar 
W6 - giga noob hermit
W7 - giga noob hermit, part 2
W12 - hermit
W13 - sprucecap extraordinaire from Magnanimous Magistrates
W14 - PotFriendJr from Doom Fortress
W15 - He Who Was from Gnomes Gone Gangsta
W16 - Marazhai from Wildfox Bread/Hogwarts
W16.1 - Knave from Pimp My Wheelchair
W16.2 - Knave-Errant from Ett gäng dumma smileys
W7 - giga noob hermit, part 2
W12 - hermit
W13 - sprucecap extraordinaire from Magnanimous Magistrates
W14 - PotFriendJr from Doom Fortress
W15 - He Who Was from Gnomes Gone Gangsta
W16 - Marazhai from Wildfox Bread/Hogwarts
W16.1 - Knave from Pimp My Wheelchair
W16.2 - Knave-Errant from Ett gäng dumma smileys
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Hasta
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Re: Cave Hermit credo soft-locked behind Rage
I'm half-convinced it's an auto-post triggered by word "Rage" present in topicstarter XDSnuggleSnail wrote:ы
I have no opinion on Rage mechanics being this way or that (or any other stuff mentioned above), really, I'll play any cards I'm dealt by the devs (who in fact may or may not be retarded).
I'm just pointing out the inconsistency. In my opinion, Cave Hermit shouldn't get quests implying the necessity of not being hermit-y. Or cave-y for that matter, there's a reason most questgivers for that credo are buried deep down on lower cave levels and are not orange trees beachfront.
Oh, let those ones suffer.Regulus2424 wrote:mystic, wandering sage and scholar
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Luno
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Re: Cave Hermit credo soft-locked behind Rage
3. Have rage alt like the world demands
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r0ck4ev3r
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Re: Cave Hermit credo soft-locked behind Rage
Not a bug.
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jorb
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Re: Cave Hermit credo soft-locked behind Rage
Meh, not a bug rly.
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