Osama bin laden is dead

[al]

I've mistaken, meant to be this: those who deny US and other Western governments involvment in, plotting and inciting of terrorism are no less arrogant than those who deny Holocaust...

[Halagaz]

I've mistaken, meant to be this: those who deny US and other Western governments involvment in, plotting and inciting of terrorism are no less arrogant than those who deny Holocaust...

You are clearly going too far, yes they did let some potentially dangerous guys take power in some countries that are turning against them now, helped them or whatever, but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?

[ninja_yodeler]

but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?

america: "we are against terrorism. the murdering of thousands of innocent civilians is a crime against humanity, and will not be tolerated"
america: *drops atomic bomb over japan*
herpity derp herp

the way that i, and pretty much everyone i know, and most i have seen talking on t.v, see things is that america started modern terrorism.

people drove a plane through 2 buildings, i dont see that as worse than dropping an atomic bomb on a hospital, and subsequent area.

edited so it actually quotes

[novaalpha]

Too bad MLK never said it.

It still makes sense.

[al]

You are clearly going too far, yes they did let some potentially dangerous guys take power in some countries that are turning against them now, helped them or whatever

Among those guys:
1. Saddam. A figure too much biased by Western media and politicians.
2. What they called al-Qaeda at first. Mujahideen weren't potentially dangerous, they were practically dangerous.

but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?

So, they helped those guys.

They make Israeli–Palestinian conflict to never end.

They stir up revolutions and wage wars in Middle East, Central Asia and now in North Africa. They aim states which are oriented on a secural society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya. Helping religious fanatics to come to power. In Afghanistan they helped Mujahideen killing a secural society which was to arise there. They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Libya right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.

They never tried to deal with terrorism in a rational and effective way which implies total ignore and censor of terrorism theme in media, because public reporting is the basis of this kind of terrorism. Which also implies measures being proportional to the gravity of the problem.

They invented and intensively exploit terrorism/anti-terrorism mythology. They use terror acts in Western cities (including East Europe and Russia) to enforce police control over population and to draw masses' attention away from real problems. The only group 9/11 was advantageous to was US ruling elite. And they used it to fullest extent, creating whole new culture of brainwashing, new global enemy to replace Communists of Cold War, universal excuse to wage wars.

And today again they drew attention away from real problems at home by throwing in this "sensation" of Osama being killed. And also the same time they've started another war which had no clear excuse.

[kLauE]

Saddam murdered MILLIONS.

Agent Orange killed more civilians than Saddam.

[pyrale]

They aim states which are oriented on a temporal society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia.
[...]
They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Lybia right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.

what

[al]

They aim states which are oriented on a temporal society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia.
[...]

I meant secular society, sorry.

They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Lybia right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.

what

Those who started actual armed conflict in Libya were young islamist junkies and not common people.

HDI. People in Libya had nearly the same level of well-being as in Europe, they had no real reason to revolt against their government. It was plotted.

[flajek122]

[b_anon]

You are clearly going too far, yes they did let some potentially dangerous guys take power in some countries that are turning against them now, helped them or whatever

Among those guys:
1. Saddam. A figure too much biased by Western media and politicians.
2. What they called al-Qaeda at first. Mujahideen weren't potentially dangerous, they were practically dangerous.

but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?

So, they helped those guys.

They make Israeli–Palestinian conflict to never end.

They stir up revolutions and wage wars in Middle East, Central Asia and now in North Africa. They aim states which are oriented on a secural society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia. Helping religious fanatics to come to power. In Afghanistan they helped Mujahideen killing a temporal society which were to arise there. They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Lybia right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.

They never tried to deal with terrorism in a rational and effective way which implies total ignore and censor of terrorism theme in media, because public reporting is the basis of this kind of terrorism. Which also implies measures being proportional to the gravity of the problem.

They invented and intensively exploit terrorism/anti-terrorism mythology. They use terror acts in Western cities (including East Europe and Russia) to enforce police control over population and to draw masses' attention away from real problems. The only group 9/11 was advantageous to was US ruling elite. And they used it to fullest extent, creating whole new culture of brainwashing, new global enemy to replace Communists of Cold War, universal excuse to wage wars.

And today again they drew attention away from real problems at home by throwing in this "sensation" of Osama being killed. And also the same time they've started another war which had no clear excuse.

You're a good dude, and i think you're right.