Tanning Quality and Water

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Tanning Quality and Water

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According to wiki, the tanning formula is qLeather = (3*qHide + qBark + qWater + qTub)/6.

this requires 1hide, 1bark, and then 60L water Image

The process demands much more water than the other materials, so it would seem reasonable to have water play a lesser (or greater?) role in determining quality.
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Re: Tanning Quality and Water

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What? How does it demand more from water, when water is playing an equal role? The Q of water barely effects the Q of the leather produced. Take a Q160 hide, Q100 tub, Q100 bark, and Q10 water. That's still Q115 leather. Or even with Q200 hide, Q200 tub, and Q200 bark, Q10 water is only dropping it by 32 points of quality. That's hardly a significant role, and it's pretty easy to find Q50+ water to push that to Q175+.

Or are you suggesting it be something like ((2*qHide)+(2*qWater)+qBark+qTub)/6?

(I admit I had to edit this, because I didn't even think of the fact you're adding 60L of water to a tiny piece of bark. But also, "realistically", the hide doesn't absorb much water at all, and water, in fact, has no actual role in the quality of the leather)
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Re: Tanning Quality and Water

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please reread OP

water amount stays same = make water q matter more or less than it already does
reduce water needed = keep same

ps. realism irrelevant, items are abstract
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Re: Tanning Quality and Water

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Okay, then I add to that, make it so you can lift a tanning tub and use it on shallow water/well and instantly fill it.
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make it so you can drain water from tub

pipe dream in current system
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Re: Tanning Quality and Water

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Well anyways in reply to the OP, I agree completely. Tanning requires too much water, even if you're just doing 1 or 2 tubs which is only a small amount of leather.
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Re: Tanning Quality and Water

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maybe if you could have 4 large hides in a tub, the amount of water would be better.

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