Stopping massive alt creating

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benedikt
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Stopping massive alt creating

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Making an alt is way too easy with curiosity system.
How about this:

every action would have give LPs as it used to be, but not towards your normal LP pool but towards 2. pool called let say Activity pool.
every time you study a curiosity, you would not get <curiosity_lp>, but min(curiosity_lp,activoty_pool) lps and your activity pool would decrease by that amount.
therefore you would have to do something with your alt to by able to use curiosities.

action LPs would have to be twinked tho so it would make macroing more difficult - like simple digging etc. would give none or only minimum etc.
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No, it really just does end up reverting to the old system then, unless:
benedikt wrote:action LPs would have to be twinked tho so it would make macroing more difficult - like simple digging etc. would give none or only minimum etc.
in which case there is no reason to not just revert to the old system with tweaking.
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ApocalypsePlease wrote:No, it really just does end up reverting to the old system then, unless:
benedikt wrote:action LPs would have to be twinked tho so it would make macroing more difficult - like simple digging etc. would give none or only minimum etc.
in which case there is no reason to not just revert to the old system with tweaking.
Derp, when I suggested that I got flamed.
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chocolaterain wrote:Derp, when I suggested that I got flamed.
Since reverting back to the old system isn't going to happen ever (the topic has been beaten so many times, just take a search). I was trying to demonstrate to him how this idea really wouldn't do much except let the botters take a strong advantage, and if you countered the bots with some small tweaks, then what the hell is the point of the curiosity half of gaining LP? The suggestion as a whole was cluttered with a lot of scenarios left unanswered. All in all, I was trying to provoke him to start elaborating more on his suggestion, but he didn't take the bait.
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benedikt wrote:Making an alt is way too easy with curiosity system.
How about this:

every action would have give LPs as it used to be, but not towards your normal LP pool but towards 2. pool called let say Activity pool.
every time you study a curiosity, you would not get <curiosity_lp>, but min(curiosity_lp,activoty_pool) lps and your activity pool would decrease by that amount.
therefore you would have to do something with your alt to by able to use curiosities.

action LPs would have to be twinked tho so it would make macroing more difficult - like simple digging etc. would give none or only minimum etc.
In theory that sounds like it would work...but your missing alot of key points to make it really work.
~~~~~~removed ;D~~~~~~ i'll explain why your system wont work, and it's simple.

In order to gain lp, you'd bot feed your char then use the massive grind tool or any of the new bot tools for farming or w/e.
No matter what you cut out the bots will just move over to the next job.

Now the truth behind it all.
You'll never, ever. get rid of bot's.


the best thing you can do is reduce the numbers of bot's or make it harder to bot.
Maybe in another thread i'd explain on how to reduce the number of bot's. but it has nothing to do with IG.
But your way does make people less lazy, it would also mean people would have to run the bot for awhile in order to get the lp they need instead of logging in then off.
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ApocalypsePlease wrote:
chocolaterain wrote:Derp, when I suggested that I got flamed.
Since reverting back to the old system isn't going to happen ever (the topic has been beaten so many times, just take a search). I was trying to demonstrate to him how this idea really wouldn't do much except let the botters take a strong advantage, and if you countered the bots with some small tweaks, then what the hell is the point of the curiosity half of gaining LP? The suggestion as a whole was cluttered with a lot of scenarios left unanswered. All in all, I was trying to provoke him to start elaborating more on his suggestion, but he didn't take the bait.
i think you didnt read my suggestion correctly. there is no "curiosity half of gainning LP". you would still get all your lps from curiosities, you would just not be able to do it without actually doing something with that char (you would not be able to just log in, get curiosities from other char and log out).
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benedikt wrote:i think you didnt read my suggestion correctly. there is no "curiosity half of gainning LP". you would still get all your lps from curiosities, you would just not be able to do it without actually doing something with that char (you would not be able to just log in, get curiosities from other char and log out).
I guess I wasn't being clear. I was speaking about the portion of the suggested system relevant to curiosities.
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Bots and alts aren't issues themselves, they are just the result of other flawed mechanics.
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OP is an idiot.
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That makes two of them in the first ten posts

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