Click and drag for movement

[tardy0]

Instead of clicking for where you want your character to go, allow us to click and drag and have the toon follow the direction the mouse is at.
Id be surprised if this hasnt been suggested already, but with the data missing from forum transfer I couldn't find any information on it.

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

Or WASD

[Xcom]

This would put to high strain on the server for complicated reasons.

[Ferinex]

This would put to high strain on the server for complicated reasons.

Please elaborate your concern. There is no reason either suggested method would be inherently weighty for the server.

[Kaios]

This would put to high strain on the server for complicated reasons.

Bumping this thread because this would be a good default client feature. kt client does this and probably others and the server seems to be fine so... ???

[Granger]

This would put to high strain on the server for complicated reasons.

Please elaborate your concern. There is no reason either suggested method would be inherently weighty for the server.

From what I see when playing, roughly the following happens when you send a move click to the server:

1) Server cancels you current movement (if any)
2) Server calculates new movement vector (from current location to click location) and current set speed,
3) Server distributes me movement vector to all connected clients that are in view range of the character, requiring further calculations and bandwidth, per client updated

So spam-clicking movement (nothing else is click and drag) has, especially in case you are in a populated area, non-trivial impact on server bandwidth and cpu load - which both are finite resources.
You might get away with that on sharded mmos (like WoW) easier (because you can spread instances over multiple machines easily) than with haven that has a single, persistent world.

[loftar]

From what I see when playing, roughly the following happens when you send a move click to the server:

1) Server cancels you current movement (if any)
2) Server calculates new movement vector (from current location to click location) and current set speed,
3) Server distributes me movement vector to all connected clients that are in view range of the character, requiring further calculations and bandwidth, per client updated

So spam-clicking movement (nothing else is click and drag) has, especially in case you are in a populated area, non-trivial impact on server bandwidth and cpu load - which both are finite resources.
You might get away with that on sharded mmos (like WoW) easier (because you can spread instances over multiple machines easily) than with haven that has a single, persistent world.

This, quite simply. Add to the possible performance issues only, if anything, that cancelling movement and reinitializing it also makes the object jerk a bit, which makes it into something I just don't really want to institutionalize.

[Thedrah]

what if in client we just have the client click a few tiles ahead and if we stop pressing the key the client just clicks under our character to stop?
although lag may be a problem

[Kaios]

This, quite simply. Add to the possible performance issues only, if anything, that cancelling movement and reinitializing it also makes the object jerk a bit, which makes it into something I just don't really want to institutionalize.

I still don't get it, are you saying that if all custom clients implemented this it could cause noticeable lag while playing? People already have it and do it.

[Granger]

Kaios, short answer: yes.

Longer answer: The server has finite resources, as soon as they are exhausted there will be lag.
The more people are using 'features' that drain resources, the less concurrent players the server can support.