W9 Siege System

[jorb]

Megathread for discussing the new World 9 siege system.

We have no idea what it is we have implemented, and need feedback.

Please keep your posts informed and meaningful.

[Bowshot125]

Im going to bash your shield Jorbtar, AND I believe the siege will go well. We just have to experience it.

[vatas]

My guess is that most problems will be related to people making layered bases that take too long to breach.

[APXEOLOG]

29 hours of continuous siege. Even worse then we have now

Actually i have a lot to say, but first of all i want to test it in real life. I think arguments are better then pointless ideas.

[shubla]

Too early to say if its good or bad as we dont even know materials for building catapults

[evilboy666]

Lets just get together and live in a one big village peacefully so J&Lo can't get any feedback

[Orcling]

Curtain walls here we come.

[lachlaan]

Proposed issue #1 , layered bases / curtain walls. Proposed solution? What's the minimum distance pclaims can have between one another? Can't donut with pclaims if there IS a minimum distance, just make it so people can't unnecessarily donut with vclaims.

[rye130]

Proposed issue #1 , layered bases / curtain walls. Proposed solution? What's the minimum distance pclaims can have between one another? Can't donut with pclaims if there IS a minimum distance, just make it so people can't unnecessarily donut with vclaims.

There is already a minimum distance between claims of the same type. 5 tiles I believe. Donut villages will always be possible, bigger minimum distance between them just makes it require a larger village to do so. The real, long term solution is making it so that maintain a village/pclaim isn't quite as trivial. If it was only possible for me to maintain 1 village, I couldn't abuse multiple to get an advantage.

[LadyGoo]

My ordinary SWO:

Strengths:
- The catapults are a start of active and dynamic siege;
- Village shields (if rams have to affect it as well) removes the need to check for rams, thanks god! Potentially, you could right-click on the earth and find out, whether you are being sieged;
- No motivation to siege noob villages;
- Reasonably easy to defend the village;
- Defenders can send nidbanes to assist them!
- No palibashers


Weaknesses:
- People can still carry stuff out using charter stones (using inner idol and etc.). Therefore, attackers will be more inclined to level the village to 0;
- People will have to build several plots and maintain a few village idols within 1 village. As an example, my people had such a village structure in W7. We had a village idol for a separate "main" plot, and outer village for other plots, serving as a shield (they were initially meant for noobs).
- Rams are basically the same as in the previous world. If they are affected by the Shields, then they won't be used, since they dry longer and can be destroyed easier, have to built closer to a village wall and etc.
- Catapults of the offensive side could be broken by the defenders easily: they have the luxury to chose the time when to attack, gather people, equip their alts with armor and make farmers to use them to scare the enemy and etc.
- No palibashers


Opportunities:
- Devs could back-up the recent change to rams in order to make the siege more dynamic (rams being undestructable for some amount of hours before being moved).
- More situative siege engines and ways to sabotage, as well as defensive measures could make the sieging more interesting and fun, even if it would take a week or so.
- A village with a broken shield could loose the visitor buff + all the doors could be opened. This could compensate the Charter Stone "abuse". Otherwise people will never attempt to raid big villages with plot-based system and switch their attention to smaller villages they could raid. Or the siege will be dead, basically.