Or more like: Error code: SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER
I thought its very easy nowadays with lets encrypt etc.
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shubla
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Re: Why the forum doesn't use https?
It does, but you have to manually install the certificate. Most browsers wont allow you to install it, at least very easily.
Tbh most people probably dont use it because they dont even know that they should manually install it from some completely random domain.
Devs should just buy one or use the free alternatives and force everyone to use https on the site.
http://dolda2000.com/
Even that site basically asks you to call loftar in order to verify authenticity of the certificate
Tbh most people probably dont use it because they dont even know that they should manually install it from some completely random domain.
Devs should just buy one or use the free alternatives and force everyone to use https on the site.
http://dolda2000.com/
Even that site basically asks you to call loftar in order to verify authenticity of the certificate

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rainland
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Re: Why the forum doesn't use https?
Yeah, precisely. Current setup is just irresponsible and bad practice imo.shubla wrote:Devs should just buy one or use the free alternatives and force everyone to use https on the site.
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Granger
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Re: Why the forum doesn't use https?
That is what the ones that want to sell certificates say, hoping for you to fall for it and pressure you site operator to pay up - basically it's a scheme to turn you into an unpaid mob enforcer for them. Given your post it seems to workrainland wrote:Current setup is just irresponsible and bad practice imo.
More details about this particular scam here.
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rainland
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Re: Why the forum doesn't use https?
What do you mean? Let's encrypt doesn't cost anythingGranger wrote:That is what the ones that want to sell certificates say, hoping for you to fall for it and pressure you site operator to pay up - basically it's a scheme to turn you into an unpaid mob enforcer for them. Given your post it seems to workrainland wrote:Current setup is just irresponsible and bad practice imo.![]()
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EDIT: Sorry I think you misunderstood me. The bad practice I was referring to is the fact to not enable https by default. This leaves majority of the userbase logging in with plain http!
IMHO using the self-signed certificate is a bit meh because you can get them from trusted CA:s for free now.
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Granger
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Re: Why the forum doesn't use https?
Let's encrypt isn't the reason for the browser warning, but a recent reaction from a community that was fed up by such shit.rainland wrote:What do you mean? Let's encrypt doesn't cost anythingGranger wrote:That is what the ones that want to sell certificates say, hoping for you to fall for it and pressure you site operator to pay up - basically it's a scheme to turn you into an unpaid mob enforcer for them. Given your post it seems to workrainland wrote:Current setup is just irresponsible and bad practice imo.![]()
More details about this particular scam here.
Some argue that using it is effectively just supporting the certificate scam, having the browsers featuring sites with higher paid certificates in more elaborate ways in their UI might be an indication toward this theory.
I'm quite confident that Loftar is aware of it, so my guess is that there are $reasons why it hasn't happened (yet).
A reasonable way to deal with the inherent flaws of the current certificate system would be DANE to have the cert delivered by the DNS which in itself is cryptologically secured against any tempering, afaik there is a smallish movement toward this but as the big browsers don't support it out of the box...
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rainland
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Re: Why the forum doesn't use https?
Thanks for the reply.
I hope I haven't appeared to be too hostile
Yeah, he must be. I made this thread hoping to catch his attention and get him to answer to me.Granger wrote:I'm quite confident that Loftar is aware of it
I hope I haven't appeared to be too hostile