There is currently at least slight problem where people are making "dummy" or "fake" realms that have zero bonuses and seem to exist only to block more "legitimate" realms with buffs from expanding.
My idea is basically to reduce base cost of Realm challenges with the cost increasing from every buff that Kingdom has. Preferably this would scale in a way that Realm with zero buffs could be challenged for practically free while Buffs would quickly ramp this up until it hits diminishing returns and caps at reasonable level.
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vatas
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Realm challenge cost balancing idea
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shubla
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I agree that fake realms must be addressed.

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stya
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Re: Realm challenge cost balancing idea
The challenge auth cost isn't the biggest issue, the problem is the extra manpower and time to challenge, bash, replace the cairn and then defend the new fresh one.
This is by far the biggest cost of border conficts.
This is by far the biggest cost of border conficts.

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Kaios
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Huh?? So small village sets up realm and is basically free to be destroyed if it takes them too long to get buffs up which it most certainly will. I don't think most players realize the amount of time and effort that goes in to creating realm buffs, sure looks real easy when a couple of realms can just claim over some crap and throw out good buffs like their nothing though so it's hard to blame people for feeling that way I guess.vatas wrote: My idea is basically to reduce base cost of Realm challenges with the cost increasing from every buff that Kingdom has. Preferably this would scale in a way that Realm with zero buffs could be challenged for practically free while Buffs would quickly ramp this up until it hits diminishing returns and caps at reasonable level.
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Headchef
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Re: Realm challenge cost balancing idea
''Fake'' realm is to send more challenges to pussy realms who raise cost of making said challenges 
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Sethfire
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Re: Realm challenge cost balancing idea
For the record, such a realm does exist. The MOTHERLAND realm was set up by AD and NN to contest Hedgehugs over control of the South Continent. It has absolutely no buffs and will never get any, and I feel bad for the people living there.
However, now that Seamarks were added, this won't be a continuing issue, I believe NN is trying to slowly assimilate MOTHERLAND territory right now.

However, now that Seamarks were added, this won't be a continuing issue, I believe NN is trying to slowly assimilate MOTHERLAND territory right now.

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Ants
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Re: Realm challenge cost balancing idea
Cairn palisades are the biggest issue, I think. It wouldn't be so complicated and boring if making cairns inaccessible wasn't a legit tactic.stya wrote:The challenge auth cost isn't the biggest issue, the problem is the extra manpower and time to challenge, bash, replace the cairn and then defend the new fresh one.
This is by far the biggest cost of border conficts.
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Hasta
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Re: Realm challenge cost balancing idea
Aww thanks, we all feel warm and fuzzy now, safely hiding behind scattered hermit palisades ('cause we're being killed on sight), watching our quest list thin out and fade due to questgivers' demise, sipping hot cocoa and reading constant cyrillic Realm chat interrupted by occasional #filthyrussians hashtag. That one in particular brings a tear of joy to my eye.Sethfire wrote:It has absolutely no buffs and will never get any, and I feel bad for the people living there.
Jokes aside,
This is marginally the thread for it though.shubla wrote: I agree that fake realms must be addressed.
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MagicManICT
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Re: Realm challenge cost balancing idea
The flipside to this is that AD has been dropping border cairns along the coast as fast as they can to prevent HH from sticking seamarks right off the coast of the western continent.Sethfire wrote:For the record, such a realm does exist. The MOTHERLAND realm was set up by AD and NN to contest Hedgehugs over control of the South Continent. It has absolutely no buffs and will never get any, and I feel bad for the people living there.
However, now that Seamarks were added, this won't be a continuing issue, I believe NN is trying to slowly assimilate MOTHERLAND territory right now.
I guess all hail the new overlord? At least we get the bonuses.
And as I understand it, doesn't a realm have to cover certain things to even erect any of the bonus authority objects? If a realm is challenging authority, it may take some time to be able to accomplish this. I'm not saying Motherland wasn't a dummy realm with the sole purpose of challenging someone else's realm authority and no intention of providing any benefit to the dwellers, but that just assuming so about any new realm is in bad form. I'm not against this idea, but it doesn't seem well balanced as is.
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MightySheep
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Re: Realm challenge cost balancing idea
im pretty sure those realms wouldnt exist if seamarks were added sooner tho
so its not rly an issue going forward
so its not rly an issue going forward