New item/mechanic: metal shavings

[drakesaint]

With how impossible it is for any hermit to make actual mine holes in-game today due to crazy bees, I suggest the mechanic of smelting any stone. You take just about every stone in the game, throw it in the smelter, and it turns to slag. A very small percentage (>1%) of the stones smelted yield metal shavings (copper/iron/tin). Ten metal shavings can be smelted in a metal nugget. This way any hermit can (with a very high consumption of coal) quarry stones and attempt to gain a metal bar from simply smelting the stones they mine. With about four loads of a ore smelter yielding a tenth of a nugget, it should discourage just about anyone that already found a vein.

[MrPunchers]

This is literally the worst idea I have ever laid my eyes upon. Why? Mineholes aren't hard to make, caves aren't hard to find. Did you think this was a good idea because you can't find ore?

[Granger]

This is literally the worst idea I have ever laid my eyes upon.

You should read the forums more often, there's plenty worse ones.

Regarding the suggestion... I'm not that impressed too. 400 smelters of stone to get one bar... doesn't sound like fun.

[MadNomad]

...but it's easier to get 100 str and mine on level 1..... or get some more and make a few mineholes

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

...but it's easier to get 100 str and mine on level 1..... or get some more and make a few mineholes

I was literally mining on level 1 with 10-20 STR and a q7 axe on day one friend. Don't know what you're gabbling about.

[loleznub]

With how impossible it is for any hermit to make actual mine holes in-game today due to crazy bees.

I'm a hermit and I've made my way down to level 6 without external help. There are plenty of guides on how to tackle beehives if you use the search function here. It's a little bit of a grind to get your first 3 or so skeps, but is certainly doable. I don't see any point as to why devs should waste their time implementing something relatively useless because you're too lazy to go searching for raidable beehives. A better fix would be to just make beehives not require larvae, as they seriously don't add anything to the game and have just been a pain to do.

[MooCow]

I play really slowly, and I have more than enough wax to make a Minehole, the only reason why I haven't is because mining in caves is generally better. No point in making a mine hole untill you are ready to mine on level 2.

You don't actually need any combat ability to raid bees, some of them literally just give you their stuff for free.

...but it's easier to get 100 str and mine on level 1..... or get some more and make a few mineholes

I was literally mining on level 1 with 10-20 STR and a q7 axe on day one friend. Don't know what you're gabbling about.

You have to be lucky and be in a soft area to do this. There are places in LvL 1 that are quite hard to mine. 100 str means you can do everything, and you can mine efficiently.

[azrid]

I would rather have them add bog iron and make it unusable in spiralling to balance.