There is a quest "Create an artifact for X"
This should be changed to "Gild an x" or something like that.
Many are so confused when they craft an artifact (gilding) and nothing happens!
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shubla
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Change artifact to gild

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Re: Change artifact to gild
In-game terminology means that an artifact is a gilded item, it does not state otherwise.shubla wrote: Many are so confused when they craft an artifact (gilding) and nothing happens!
But anyway - agree that this is confusing when you meet such quest first time.
Maybe instead of "Gildings" section item should have "Artifact:" mention, which means that item is already an artifact, because it has gildings described below.
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Re: Change artifact to gild
Some wording suggestions:
"Gild a clothing item to create an <Exploration> artifact."
"Gild a piece of clothing for <Exploration>."
"Gild a piece of clothing to make an artifact for <Exploration>."
Any of these creates a more direct conveyance of information and provides a better contextual definition of terminology via describing the process.
edit: I explicitly mention clothing, but it probably should be "an item" because rings count, too.
"Gild a clothing item to create an <Exploration> artifact."
"Gild a piece of clothing for <Exploration>."
"Gild a piece of clothing to make an artifact for <Exploration>."
Any of these creates a more direct conveyance of information and provides a better contextual definition of terminology via describing the process.
Well, they are called 'gilds' in the craft menu. That's the issue--artifact is mentioned nowhere else in the game. What, exactly, is an artifact unless I look it up on the forums or the wiki?shubla wrote:Many are so confused when they craft an artifact (gilding) and nothing happens!
edit: I explicitly mention clothing, but it probably should be "an item" because rings count, too.
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shubla
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Re: Change artifact to gild
Good suggestions.MagicManICT wrote:Some wording suggestions:
"Gild a clothing item to create an <Exploration> artifact."
"Gild a piece of clothing for <Exploration>."
"Gild a piece of clothing to make an artifact for <Exploration>."
Any of these creates a more direct conveyance of information and provides a better contextual definition of terminology via describing the process.
Well, they are called 'gilds' in the craft menu. That's the issue--artifact is mentioned nowhere else in the game. What, exactly, is an artifact unless I look it up on the forums or the wiki?shubla wrote:Many are so confused when they craft an artifact (gilding) and nothing happens!
edit: I explicitly mention clothing, but it probably should be "an item" because rings count, too.
It is a minor thing, but then again, very easy change to do to slightly improve the game.

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Re: Change artifact to gild
bad suggestions, rings are barely could be called "clothing" but can be an artifact, so...
just "create a level (N) artifact fro (attribute) by gilding" is pretty enough to remove confusion.
just "create a level (N) artifact fro (attribute) by gilding" is pretty enough to remove confusion.
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Re: Change artifact to gild
everythings fine. it doesnt matter how you call something theres always somebody who will not understand or even better will not even try
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Re: Change artifact to gild
There is a difference between 1 and 100.Lyrroth wrote:everythings fine. it doesnt matter how you call something theres always somebody who will not understand or even better will not even try

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Lyrroth
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Re: Change artifact to gild
loftar is not jorb and shubla is shubla and what about that? artifact is nowhere mentioned because if somebody isnt new to games as whole they should know that artifact in many occasions are called usable equipment that grants to user some benefits. if somebody dont know that it should be either stated for this very small percentage of people in tutorial or be somewhere written. doing anything else will draw even more confusion especially to veterans. dont try to fix something that isnt broken
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Re: Change artifact to gild
Actually artifacts in many RPG games usually are not considered equipment type but are either a rare material, object, or upgrade/stat modifier item for the equipment itself.Lyrroth wrote:loftar is not jorb and shubla is shubla and what about that? artifact is nowhere mentioned because if somebody isnt new to games as whole they should know that artifact in many occasions are called usable equipment that grants to user some benefits. if somebody dont know that it should be either stated for this very small percentage of people in tutorial or be somewhere written. doing anything else will draw even more confusion especially to veterans. dont try to fix something that isnt broken
Artifact is not referenced anywhere else but in quest objective so anyone new is going to obviously be confused. This is probably an easy fix that won't cause any problem if you're not a dummy.