Eating: no change to fullness, satiety etc.

[xyzzy57]

I have a toon who's been working hard. Energy 7026%.

He was just short of finishing his food event point bar, so I had him nibbling one each of every fruit I had on hand.

After half a dozen(?) fruit, nothing was added to food satiations. The FEP bar didn't fill. Cores were produced, if the fruit had one. Otherwise the food eaten disappeared normally. His satiety is at 0.0% and his food efficacy is at 300%

While I was typing this, the energy went down to 6978% but no other change. He is not injured. (This seems like an awfully fast decline. He hasn't been working.)


I have another toon who ate successfully a couple of RL hours ago. He was barely in the healing range of energy when fed, and ended up with his energy nearer full.

I'm using Ender's beta client, but in this case I wouldn't expect the client to matter.

But I'll check with the default client soonish.

[xyzzy57]

The other toon just ate a green apple, went from energy 9374 to 9524. Ender beta client again.

He *is* injured, but his energy isn't dropping fast like the problem toon.

[xyzzy57]

Problem replicated with default client.

[xyzzy57]

The fast energy drop isn't happening while the toon is logged off asleep in his bed. So maybe I *won't* lose him to starvation.

[The_Blode]

If energy is below Healing (8000%) when eating, the only effect of eating is to gain energy. FEPs, hunger, satiations &c are only affected when eating while Healing.
The "hard-labor cap" (for digging and mining) has been set to 2500% energy instead of the current 5000%.
If feasting (eating by a table) you always gain both FEPs and Hunger, irrespective of your current Energy.

[xyzzy57]

If energy is below Healing (8000%) when eating, the only effect of eating is to gain energy. FEPs, hunger, satiations &c are only affected when eating while Healing.
The "hard-labor cap" (for digging and mining) has been set to 2500% energy instead of the current 5000%.
If feasting (eating by a table) you always gain both FEPs and Hunger, irrespective of your current Energy.

The toon isn't gaining energy at all. Instead, energy is being constantly lost. Worse, it's being lost fast, even when the toon's logged in but doing nothing.

I hope this isn't design intent: get below healing and then inevitably die of starvation, except perhaps if you have a table and chair and so can "feast".

[xyzzy57]

The toon regained energy when eating while sitting at a table.

But apparently once you are no longer healing, you *cannot* gain energy without a table and chair.

Also, given my observations, your energy continues to drop fast as long as you are logged in.

That's going to kill a lot of newbs. By the time they figure this out, they may no longer be able to chop a tree, chip stones etc. to make the required table and chair.

<sarcasm> Perhaps we should change character spawn to give everyone a pre-made claim, complete with table and chair. </sarcasm>

Perhaps the design intent was to be able to eat to regain energy without satiety consequences, and the lack of energy gain is a bug.

[xyzzy57]

Reposted with new title, since titles can't be edited, and the symptoms I put in this subject line seem to be intentional changes.

The new title is: Repost: Once you aren't healing, you cannot gain energy

That's not quite accurate. But the title field isn't long enough to say that you can *only* gain energy if you sit at a table while eating.

Of course I explained that in the body of the message.

[Executioner]

below 8k everything you eat (unless at table) is just for energy and gives no FEPs

it lets you do manual labor and run everywhere without being forced to eat 'inefficiently' off a table, very good change, but maybe not so intuitive, this game no tutorial op