Revisiting HnH after 10 years (recent video steam)

[mvgulik]

(thanks to in-game chat ... FOR LINK (Shubla!))


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(seems it was already mentioned here)

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Nookrium gave it an other try at the start of world 13.

2 part playlist

[shubla]

Didn't know that you have a youtube channel!!
Bit weird to be active on forums and have 10 year break though.

Anyway, he is quite uncivilized as he says that URW is some icelandic game, even though it is common knowledge that it is Finnish and based on Finnish things and in Finland overall!

[Jalpha]

I think this is what is commonly referred to as a comedy of errors. He starts in winter and then makes everything look very difficult. Honestly pretty painful to watch.

[mvgulik]

> Honestly pretty painful to watch.
Kinda yea.

[Exerosp]

Y'all can't appreciate quality entertainment. My best source of entertainment is seeing people struggle and do mistakes, and well, learn a game you enjoy. Is this how teachers feel like?

[shubla]

I think his experience is ruined by those who swarm around him and give him stuff like merch robes.
Best way to make somebody new quit this game is to just give him everything.

[vatas]

Copy pasted my reply from this thread, only small clarification with added ().

Not trying to be mean, but trying to "grab" the kuksa by it's crafting menu icon is pretty bad, can't say devs are at fault here.

Chat is trying to give advice but some like (shift+click to put all in stockpile) is missing crucial context (that seasoned haven player will, unconsciously, fallaciously assume it's obvious) and he fails to figure out you need to grab the the item and right-click correct stockpile while holding shift. Something could be done to explain these basic controls. Also, nobody is telling him to gather Tough Bark from Willows to make Cordage, this is something you're unlikely to figure out, likely assuming all non-birch trees have generic bark.

00.27.24 Now we hit a big one: he assumes spices are required, not optional, when roasting meat. This is perfectly reasonable assumption to make, there's very little to indicate they're optional (tiny gap between "any meat" and "spices") I'd definitely support any reasonable change that would make this more obvious.

00.37.30 I think this was mentioned basically immediately when people stated making guides for the new combat system in w8: lot of people try to click the icons for moves that appear, having no idea that you use them with number keys.

00.38.30 He noticed, read and understood the KO ping, which to my knowledge is lot more than you can say about several players who've complained about dying to animals or other players because they "kept waking up and getting knocked down"

[Salad]

I think his experience is ruined by those who swarm around him and give him stuff like merch robes.
Best way to make somebody new quit this game is to just give him everything.

Getting everything handed to you does ruin the early game progression, I remember last world when I was setting up my own town for a while a few people dropped by to give me their hand-me-downs, I appreciated it and all but it did sort of eliminate a large portion of my goals in terms of gear creation.

This problem only gets worse as the world gets older, I know people want to help, and they're being neighborly but I'd wait and see if people asked for help first, a lot of people just want to have their own journey, not be given everything on a silver platter.

In addition, starting in winter just sucks horrendously, recently did a walkabout seeing where I might want to set up a new base camp on the mainland and everything is just miserable to look at and there's barely any forage to work with. Not his fault though, winter as a season is just sort of dead air, there isn't a lot to do for new hearthlings other than to explore and freeze to death, you can't discover a ton of seeds for trees, but you could go discover different stones, study items are limited, you can't really make clothes, food is doable but it sucks. Winter just needs more for newbies. Maybe i'm missing stuff? Anyone want to chime in on the new player experience in the dead of winter?

[vatas]

I could probably write a better post, but in many ways it's probably better to make a Barter Stand that sells decent quality metal tools for like 10 Bone Glue each and advertise it locally in some way. Bone Glue can be easily or at least practically grinded by even the Spruciest of Caps and it will always have some use, regardless of quality.

[mvgulik]

Nookrium gave it an other try at the start of world 13.

2 part playlist.