Game Development: My Log has Something to Tell You

[Atamzsiktrop]

So how is this fabled W7 combat so much different from worlds 3-5? Because in those combat was all about exploity BS like alts calling thunder on you while you bloodlust for instant filling of attack bar. The system was never used as intended, so it's kinda hard to properly assess it without fixing ALL of the exploits, and by the time you do that it wouldn't resemble the original system at all because a lot of those exploits were in the very core of the combat system.

Because people were bad at it so they "had" to use wanky stuff like alts. In the long run it's a completely useless tactic and I doubt if anyone even used that ever.

[Atamzsiktrop]

Seriously though, you "oldfags" somehow see that if someone is criticizing your obsession with legacy combat, he's automatically perfectly fine with current combat system. I, for one, don't like current PvP because it's linear and has very obvious choices with zero variety. But I don't want some dusty old system, I've played legacy for a while and didn't care much for such complicated and flawed combat. Calling people "stupid" just 'cause you were good in something a while back and now someone doesn't acknowledge that and doesn't want your "thing" to be reinstated, - it is, well, stupid.

Criticizing with no arguments, only because you were bad and too lazy to get good at it. It wasn't even complicated.
It is, well, stupid.

"Flawed" - you couldn't even name 1 major flaw, could you?

[Ozzy123]

Noobs arent meant to be able to hunt a fucking mammoth or a troll, noobs are meant to die to boars and then become good enough to kill boars, then die to bears and become good enough to kill bears. If a noob that started playing 1 week ago can 1v1 a mammoth cuz the combat system lets him do that it means the combat system is bad, becouse its Haven&Hearth not a random MMORPG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WalNMib1cT0

What you're trying to show here? A guy that uses steal thunder to fight animals that don't get coins on you at all? That is using shield up instead of parry? Chop instead of sting? Dude, I said the combat system lets noobs to kill mammoths easily, but if you have no moves and no armor the mammoth will kill you anyways, lol.

[Potjeh]

So how is this fabled W7 combat so much different from worlds 3-5? Because in those combat was all about exploity BS like alts calling thunder on you while you bloodlust for instant filling of attack bar. The system was never used as intended, so it's kinda hard to properly assess it without fixing ALL of the exploits, and by the time you do that it wouldn't resemble the original system at all because a lot of those exploits were in the very core of the combat system.

Because people were bad at it so they "had" to use wanky stuff like alts. In the long run it's a completely useless tactic and I doubt if anyone even used that ever.

LMAO. And you call me bad at legacy combat. Why do you think things like flex nerf happened?

[Ozzy123]

So how is this fabled W7 combat so much different from worlds 3-5? Because in those combat was all about exploity BS like alts calling thunder on you while you bloodlust for instant filling of attack bar. The system was never used as intended, so it's kinda hard to properly assess it without fixing ALL of the exploits, and by the time you do that it wouldn't resemble the original system at all because a lot of those exploits were in the very core of the combat system.

Dude if you think that people were using alts to get attack with bloodlust then you obviously didn't fight in legacy at all, for me your opinion is worthless after writing such bullshit xD

[Atamzsiktrop]

So how is this fabled W7 combat so much different from worlds 3-5? Because in those combat was all about exploity BS like alts calling thunder on you while you bloodlust for instant filling of attack bar. The system was never used as intended, so it's kinda hard to properly assess it without fixing ALL of the exploits, and by the time you do that it wouldn't resemble the original system at all because a lot of those exploits were in the very core of the combat system.

Because people were bad at it so they "had" to use wanky stuff like alts. In the long run it's a completely useless tactic and I doubt if anyone even used that ever.

LMAO. And you call me bad at legacy combat. Why do you think things like flex nerf happened?

Because it was a strong skill? What does it prove? What does flex have to do with "alts filling bloodlust"?

Wtf.

[Hasta]

Criticizing with no arguments, only because you were bad and too lazy to get good at it. It wasn't even complicated.
It is, well, stupid.
"Flawed" - you couldn't even name 1 major flaw, could you?

Dude, I know you're cross with me, and it's fine, but not a reason to shit up this thread. I am not going to discuss with you something I didn't write. You probably should remove that sunglasses from your avatar, they don't let you read.

Again, for our special-needs Atamzee: Current system bad. Legacy system old. Some like, some not. But legacy system not best. Not need legacy back. Let devs make better.

[Kaios]

If the real problem of the new combat system was PvE then it's kinda strange for me

that's what I recall jorb or loftar saying about it, they had been testing out pve and didn't like how the changes effected it. I can only assume that means it took forever to kill something.

What you're trying to show here? A guy that uses steal thunder to fight animals that don't get coins on you at all? That is using shield up instead of parry? Chop instead of sting? Dude, I said the combat system lets noobs to kill mammoths easily, but if you have no moves and no armor the mammoth will kill you anyways, lol.

The reason I like hunting animals with current combat is I can just parry + punch & cleave and it is dead why should I have to waste time building up an attack bar on every single animal. Hunting is great how it is, not taking in to consideration whether or not you think the animals themselves are too easy or too hard at a certain stage. The combat is hard for a new player to learn in combination with killing something tougher as evidenced by that mammoth video I linked, everyone else already had a world to learn and perfect the methods with what we have currently.

Your ego is showing ozzy, those players are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing as new players and it's obvious not everyone picks up on it so easily. There's your point about an easy combat system disproven.

[Potjeh]

Too bad the archives are gone, I was pretty much in every significant battle of worlds 1-5.

As for flex, it was OP when used on your own allies. If you were at battle at Winterfell you'd know.

[Atamzsiktrop]

Dude, I know you're cross with me, and it's fine, but not a reason to shit up this thread. I am not going to discuss with you something I didn't write. You probably should remove that sunglasses from your avatar, they don't let you read.

Again, for our special-needs Atamzee: Current system bad. Legacy system old. Some like, some not. But legacy system not best. Not need legacy back. Let devs make better.

There's also like 3 people here arguing that aren't you, so please go away if you don't have anything to discuss and stop shitting it up, bro.

Too bad the archives are gone, I was pretty much in every significant battle of worlds 1-5.

As for flex, it was OP when used on your own allies. If you were at battle at Winterfell you'd know.

Cool, that was 5 years ago. We are all talking about W7 combat, the most refined one and you keep argumenting with things that were literally completely changed and non existant in the end.