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kemil88
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Energy and Hunger
I did think they were connected, since the only way to recover energy seems to be by eating, but then I did notice that now that I am drinking a lot because of mining, and eating a lot, my character is "content" (food efficacy 90%) even if my energy is almost 5000, so should I just stop playing and wait for the character to be more in hunger or what?
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Granger
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Re: Energy and Hunger
Hunger should be renamed appetite.
Known issue.
Known issue.
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kemil88
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Re: Energy and Hunger
The character gains appetite if I log out?
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Redlaw
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Re: Energy and Hunger
logged in or out you gain higher, though more happy you are faster it drops.
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kemil88
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Re: Energy and Hunger
Hope he will be very hungry tomorrow xD I've been mining a lot and still haven't found 1 ore, but I got a cave in (can't do anything about it since mine supports are built with metal..) hope tomorrow will be better..
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Artyom15
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Re: Energy and Hunger
Energy = What the Hunger Bar from old Haven was. Energy is expended when you do things. Regenerate stamina or drink water? Uses energy. Heal? Uses energy. Do anything in the game apart from stand in one place forever? Uses energy. Under 2,000 energy you starve to death, above 8,000 you heal SHP.
Hunger now ONLY affects FEP. It has no bearing on the game other than your FEP gain. You lose 1% over a period of time, faster if you're more full and slower if you're less full. E.x. You lose 1% Hunger every 10 minutes at Content, while losing 1% every 2 hours at Ravenous. It also provides a multiplier for FEP. At Ravenous you get a 300% FEP gain. So if you eat a 1 FEP food, you gain 3 FEP. At Content you get a 90% one. So if you eat a 1 FEP food, you gain .9 FEP. It is meant to give players who take a week or two break a FEP boost when they finally come back.
Energy is only lost while online and active. Hunger is lost 24/7 as long as the servers are up and your character is alive.
Hunger now ONLY affects FEP. It has no bearing on the game other than your FEP gain. You lose 1% over a period of time, faster if you're more full and slower if you're less full. E.x. You lose 1% Hunger every 10 minutes at Content, while losing 1% every 2 hours at Ravenous. It also provides a multiplier for FEP. At Ravenous you get a 300% FEP gain. So if you eat a 1 FEP food, you gain 3 FEP. At Content you get a 90% one. So if you eat a 1 FEP food, you gain .9 FEP. It is meant to give players who take a week or two break a FEP boost when they finally come back.
Energy is only lost while online and active. Hunger is lost 24/7 as long as the servers are up and your character is alive.
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Darklordx2
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Re: Energy and Hunger
Stamina is really your Breath. Energy is your caloric reserve. It makes a lot of sense when you think of it in this way.
Hunger is just there to make binge-eating less effective. It's not really how hungry your character is. Your current Energy level is essentially how hungry you are (how badly you desire calories).
Also, Constitution makes you run and swim better. So Constitution should really be called Stamina. And Stamina, as mentioned, should really be called Breath (you expend it by working and regain it by resting and drinking).
And regaining breath takes Energy (calories), which makes sense. But Hunger isn't really how hungry you are, it should be called Appetite.
And Satiations are weird. They don't show how satiated you are but rather how un-satiated you are. For example if you are 100% satiated on Fish then you are not at all satiated on Fish. And if you're 36% satiated on Sausages then Sausages are only 36% effective. So perhaps Satiations should rather be called Cravings.
To sum up: Constitution is Stamina, Stamina is Breath, Energy is Caloric reserve, Satiations are Cravings and Hunger is not really hunger, you can safely ignore it, it's just there to piss off the min-maxers.
Hunger is just there to make binge-eating less effective. It's not really how hungry your character is. Your current Energy level is essentially how hungry you are (how badly you desire calories).
Also, Constitution makes you run and swim better. So Constitution should really be called Stamina. And Stamina, as mentioned, should really be called Breath (you expend it by working and regain it by resting and drinking).
And regaining breath takes Energy (calories), which makes sense. But Hunger isn't really how hungry you are, it should be called Appetite.
And Satiations are weird. They don't show how satiated you are but rather how un-satiated you are. For example if you are 100% satiated on Fish then you are not at all satiated on Fish. And if you're 36% satiated on Sausages then Sausages are only 36% effective. So perhaps Satiations should rather be called Cravings.
To sum up: Constitution is Stamina, Stamina is Breath, Energy is Caloric reserve, Satiations are Cravings and Hunger is not really hunger, you can safely ignore it, it's just there to piss off the min-maxers.
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MagicManICT
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Re: Energy and Hunger
A couple of good posts here on explanation. Maybe you guys can convince jorb to change the names?
Only comment on Constitution is that its primary purpose has been to increase the character hit points. Other things (such as slower stamina drain when swimming) were added in later.
Only comment on Constitution is that its primary purpose has been to increase the character hit points. Other things (such as slower stamina drain when swimming) were added in later.
Hunger drains at a fixed rate based on what level it is at. The fullest levels drain out in a couple of hours. It takes about 4-5 days for the best bonus (starving? forget off top of my head) to fully drain away.kemil88 wrote:Hope he will be very hungry tomorrow xD I've been mining a lot and still haven't found 1 ore, but I got a cave in (can't do anything about it since mine supports are built with metal..) hope tomorrow will be better..
Opinions expressed in this statement are the authors alone and in no way reflect on the game development values of the actual developers.
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kemil88
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Re: Energy and Hunger
Also, it's weird that I almost eat only Meat but my character doesn't want to eat anything else, I mean he have like:
48% Fish
68% Berries
95% Forage
95% Fruit
95% Bread
But yeah, meat is awesome so I can understand him..
48% Fish
68% Berries
95% Forage
95% Fruit
95% Bread
But yeah, meat is awesome so I can understand him..
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kemil88
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Re: Energy and Hunger
So...wait, you can be overstuffed of food but yet dying because of low calories? o.oMagicManICT wrote:A couple of good posts here on explanation. Maybe you guys can convince jorb to change the names?
Only comment on Constitution is that its primary purpose has been to increase the character hit points. Other things (such as slower stamina drain when swimming) were added in later.
Hunger drains at a fixed rate based on what level it is at. The fullest levels drain out in a couple of hours. It takes about 4-5 days for the best bonus (starving? forget off top of my head) to fully drain away.kemil88 wrote:Hope he will be very hungry tomorrow xD I've been mining a lot and still haven't found 1 ore, but I got a cave in (can't do anything about it since mine supports are built with metal..) hope tomorrow will be better..
