Market the game

Thoughts on the further development of Haven & Hearth? Feel free to opine!
User avatar
Ferinex
Posts: 1040
Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 9:05 am
Location: Miami

Market the game

Post by Ferinex »

insta twitter facebook ads could be effective at getting new players in the door. the game feels much closer to gold/prod ready than back in the day. if you advertise it and new players try it, many will enjoy it and stay. that's just my observation. it seems the only player-attracting thing that happens is world resets
i guess they never miss huh
User avatar
vatas
Posts: 5255
Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:34 am
Location: Suomi Finland Perkele

Re: Market the game

Post by vatas »

I've previously held position that marketing would be waste, because you'd be paying for people to get potentially bad experience of the game. But over the years game has had so much improvement that I might start to agree. The long-requested "KO options menu" may be the one thing finally turning the scales.
Haven and Hearth Wiki (Maintained by volunteers - test/verify when practical. Forum thread

Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)

Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
User avatar
Nightdawg
Posts: 2637
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:31 am

Re: Market the game

Post by Nightdawg »

No, this game might have progressed a lot (at a super mega slow pace), but it's not ready yet.

And even if it was close to ready, the devs are nowhere near ready.
jorb wrote: I do not want to over-promise or hype up stuff that could be months out.
"Our primary development direction is toward object-controlled-objects"
User avatar
Pommfritz
Posts: 360
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:00 pm

Re: Market the game

Post by Pommfritz »

Imagine the game would have 10-20k players online on average because of some great success or whatever. There would just be no fucking respawn anywhere and also mining has an endpoint, although I don't know how many manhours would be needed to mine out the entire map this would be an issue at some point.

I think those are some fundamental flaws that stop the game from growing and have actually nothing to do with how good/ polished the game is. Such things don't happen often but if you are not able to cash in on your 2% best outcomes you lose quite a lot of potential value from whatever you are doing.
Last edited by Pommfritz on Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
wonder-ass
Posts: 2359
Joined: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:02 am

Re: Market the game

Post by wonder-ass »

I think the real flaw is the dog shit tutorial and lack of good public client XD. Every person ive ever shown this game too had no clue what to do got bored and quit. (Some of them even being autistic griefers that would love this game but simply gave it no chance)
see homo sexuality trending,. do not do that.
User avatar
shubla
Posts: 13041
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:26 am
Location: Finland

Re: Market the game

Post by shubla »

Game has very bad player retention, and big issues with devs not getting rid of certain people and/or mechanics that they should which will cause everybody to just badmouth the game about how its community is so toxic.
Usage of money for marketing would be the worst use of devs earnings I'm quite sure.

Devs have stated earlier anyways that they think that good game should spread from mouth to mouth.

Server cannot even handle more than 1k players at a time.
Image
I'm not sure that I have a strong argument against sketch colors - Jorb, November 2019
http://i.imgur.com/CRrirds.png?1
Join the moderated unofficial discord for the game! https://discord.gg/2TAbGj2
Purus Pasta, The Best Client
User avatar
wonder-ass
Posts: 2359
Joined: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:02 am

Re: Market the game

Post by wonder-ass »

shubla wrote:Game has very bad player retention, and big issues with devs not getting rid of certain people and/or mechanics that they should which will cause everybody to just badmouth the game about how its community is so toxic.
Usage of money for marketing would be the worst use of devs earnings I'm quite sure.

Devs have stated earlier anyways that they think that good game should spread from mouth to mouth.

Server cannot even handle more than 1k players at a time.
“Getting rid of certain people” lmao retard why are you so mad. play stupid games on forums win stupid prizes in game.
see homo sexuality trending,. do not do that.
User avatar
Fostik
Posts: 2521
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:08 pm
Location: EU

Re: Market the game

Post by Fostik »

While alpha released games that are pretty hardcore receiving hype quite often, you look back and see that hafen is actually already pretty good, more developed and has deeper mechanics than most of the recent popular indie games.

On the other hand, steps such as marketing or steam release would led developers into unbearable difficulties they may face.
Known as zunzon. Contact discord: zunzon.
My experience of market building in W13
User avatar
Ferinex
Posts: 1040
Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 9:05 am
Location: Miami

Re: Market the game

Post by Ferinex »

Fostik wrote:While alpha released games that are pretty hardcore receiving hype quite often, you look back and see that hafen is actually already pretty good, more developed and has deeper mechanics than most of the recent popular indie games.

On the other hand, steps such as marketing or steam release would led developers into unbearable difficulties they may face.
no risk, no reward. :!:
i guess they never miss huh
User avatar
WowGain
Posts: 1097
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:09 am

Re: Market the game

Post by WowGain »

shubla wrote:big issues with devs not getting rid of certain people and/or mechanics that they should which will cause everybody to just badmouth the game about how its community is so toxic.
brave to ask jorbtar to get rid of you
W7 Hermit, Honorary Ruskie
W8 Hermit - W10 Hermit - W12 Hermit
W13 Oppidian, Lawspeaker of Duckshead Bay, Straumfjord
W14 Oppidian, Aldermann of Aldorice Reodcomba, Duke of Eirinsk, Count of Sasheim
W15 Oppidian, Vanguard of the Wowgangers
W16 Oppidian, Sheriff of Yurhaven


discord: wowgain

Return to “Critique & Ideas”