Do you have any fucking idea how many people die on top stated characters due to bugs? This is where you wanna draw the line in the sand, a rollback deleting some inventory items every 2 years????????Agrik wrote:
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SnuggleSnail
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
"We specialize in permadeath and forum drama." -man who removed death and deletes every drama thread
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4kuma
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
I borrowed a gemcutter's wheel from a friend, and moved it to another base to cut some gems. Now the table, a barrel with gemdust, my and another friend's gems I worked on are gone.
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Mary_CZ
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
Its ok, its not your fault Loftar
big supporting hugs
loftar wrote:As of the bundle patch, there was initially a bug where bundles could be stacked within bundles. This was subsequently fixed, but prior to that, there was a user who stacked bundles 100+ levels deep on an account, which when said user logged back in now caused a stack overflow, causing corruption to nearby memory in the server.
Unfortunately, despite spending a couple of hours trying, I could not repair the affected memory region to an extent where the server state was saveable, so I have been forced to not save said state, which means the game will be starting back up from the last-saved state, which is what we refer to as a rollback. The main problem with rollbacks, even more than losing the last bit of gameplay, is that different parts of the state are saved at different times, which causes the saved state to become inconsistent. For example, if you picked up an item from a container into your inventory, and it turns out that the character was saved after that, but the container wasn't, the item will have been duplicated, whereas if the opposite is true, the item will have been permanently lost. Most parts of the game state is usually saved somewhere between 0-2 hours prior to the crash, so that is about the timespan that can be expected to be affected.
I can't sufficiently express my apologies for letting this happen, but at this point there is unfortunately not a whole lot I can do about it, and there is also no way for me to validate claims of lost things.
To avoid similar problems in the future, I have installed a stack checker at some potentially deeply recursive algorithms, and will also be auto-purging any remaining deeply nested bundles that may have lingered.
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irongete
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
Don't forget we're playing an alpha.
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noindyfikator
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
paid alpha, pogirongete wrote:Don't forget we're playing an alpha.
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The_Blode
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
show me one mandatory paymentnoindyfikator wrote:paid alpha, pogirongete wrote:Don't forget we're playing an alpha.
account verification is pay2win but it's not a paid alpha. nobody's forcing you to spend money to try the incomplete game
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SnuggleSnail
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
I don't even think the rollback was that bad, but slapping an alpha sticker on something doesn't rly do anything except provide chronic boot lickers with an excuse. It's just a marketing buzzword.
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Sevenless
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
Original software development terms:SnuggleSnail wrote:I don't even think the rollback was that bad, but slapping an alpha sticker on something doesn't rly do anything except provide chronic boot lickers with an excuse. It's just a marketing buzzword.
Beta: Limited non-dev people have been allowed to test the product
Alpha: Dev team testing only.
Pre-Alpha: Term that didn't exist? Planning stage before doing anything?
Marketing terms
Beta: Buggy and we haven't bothered to do a proper marketing blitz, if we ever will
Alpha: Extremely buggy, give us money at your own risk, but we are asking for money. We're not going to claim this is a scam outloud, but we do have meetings about this term.
Pre-Alpha: Look bro, we're straight up scamming you. But you can give us money while dreaming about a game that doesn't exist.
Lucky: haven is so quirky
Lucky: can be so ugly, can be so heartwarming
Sevenless: it is life
The Art of Herding
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Explanation of the logic behind the cooking system
Lucky: can be so ugly, can be so heartwarming
Sevenless: it is life
The Art of Herding
W16 Farmer's Almanac
W16 Casting Rod Cheatsheet
Explanation of the logic behind the cooking system
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Fille
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
One camp here is like, one little stumble and it is is now time to meltdown and nuke everything from orbit lol
Please, tell me more about things you lost in the rollback that require compensation and immediate w15, I'd like to continue laughing at your expense.
Please, tell me more about things you lost in the rollback that require compensation and immediate w15, I'd like to continue laughing at your expense.
Gay mer
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Nightdawg
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Re: Bug consequences: Rollback 2023-01-25
I was moving my lost faith in the devs from cupboard to cupboard, and this rollback ended up duping it.Fille wrote:One camp here is like, one little stumble and it is is now time to meltdown and nuke everything from orbit lol
Please, tell me more about things you lost in the rollback that require compensation and immediate w15, I'd like to continue laughing at your expense.
"Our primary development direction is toward object-controlled-objects"jorb wrote: I do not want to over-promise or hype up stuff that could be months out.