Game Development: World 16, with Steam

[kabuto202]

Okay cool but who asked?

The person I responded too. If you find such confusions common, I recommend enrolling in an online remedial adult social interactions course or a remedial English course, whichever you suspect might be the more pressing issue.

[Nightdawg]

Bro is literally talking about having to wake up in the middle of the night cause your steel crucible is running out of fuel and you can't just add more than 7.5 hours worth of fuel in it.
Stop acting retarded razzbane.

Imagine pretending that steel bot is the only bot in this game

Imagine pretending that catching dragonflies is the problem everyone is complaining about.
You need a bot to catch dragonflies?

[Dawidio123]

I don't even boy usually. I have in the past though.

Yaaaaaas, slaaaaay queeeeen.

[Mepp]

It's an alt problem.

Alts are just a symptom of many smaller problems/bad mechanics. Credos obviously, but I am not going to waste my main's stamina and hunger on mundane things like chopping trees, removing stumps, leveling land, building, etc. either. Being a hermit is nigh impossible without alts as well.

You can eat to refill stamina. It has no impact on hunger anymore. No reason to spam alts for soil digging and tree chopping. It's been like that for a while.

[kabuto202]

Just to be clear, when I say the botting issue needs to be addressed, I'm not blind to the underlying issues that actively encourage botting whether it would be incredibly tedious gameplay elements or incentivized economies of benefits from having dozen of alts performing low value actions that eventually add up to a massive advantage.

All of these things need to be addressed. Overly tedious verbs should have some degree of QoL, automation, or better engagement. However, if you want a Steam release this is actually not as of big of an issue as botted alts. If Runescape classic is anything to go by, there is a level of cozy brainless chores that normies are willing to engage with. More importantly, this kind of botting isn't as blatant and thus isn't as big of an image issue.

Alt botting however is. Although I understand empathy requires a degree of emotional maturity that is beyond many here, I encourage you to try and imagine what the reaction of your average normie is going to be when they realize the 20 hearthfire neighbor that just appeared next to their humble little cottage, is actually 3 turbo neckbeards and their botnet.

This will be you...

... Trying to justify why bots are good actually. While the normie will roll their eyes at you, call you a cheater/exploiter, and go back to playing whatever they were before.

If you really want to keep botting in the game. At the very least roll it into the main client and create a few dozen pre-loaded scripts, maybe integrate some sort of official way of sharing them using Steam Workshop. That way you can at least sell it as a feature, rather than an unfair advantage that some veteran players have in an already incredibly arcane and unintuitive games that every normie will perceive it as.

[abt79]

You're operating from this premise that anyone wants to encourage normies to engage with this MMOslop, when in fact:

• most haven players would happily curbstomp normies, shout slurs at them, destroy all their works for shits'n'gigs, jump up and down on their blender-rendered corpses
• no experienced haven player with the "empathy" you condescendingly claim to have, would wish to curse others with investment in such an unpleasant, tedious mess

Make friends with the other crabs or try to escape the bucket. No amount of steam hermits will make the game good.

basically,

my sweaty balls in your cereal

[22nd_ChuckNorris]

Just to be clear, when I say the botting issue needs to be addressed, I'm not blind to the underlying issues that actively encourage botting whether it would be incredibly tedious gameplay elements or incentivized economies of benefits from having dozen of alts performing low value actions that eventually add up to a massive advantage.

All of these things need to be addressed. Overly tedious verbs should have some degree of QoL, automation, or better engagement. However, if you want a Steam release this is actually not as of big of an issue as botted alts. If Runescape classic is anything to go by, there is a level of cozy brainless chores that normies are willing to engage with. More importantly, this kind of botting isn't as blatant and thus isn't as big of an image issue.

Alt botting however is. Although I understand empathy requires a degree of emotional maturity that is beyond many here, I encourage you to try and imagine what the reaction of your average normie is going to be when they realize the 20 hearthfire neighbor that just appeared next to their humble little cottage, is actually 3 turbo neckbeards and their botnet.

This will be you...

... Trying to justify why bots are good actually. While the normie will roll their eyes at you, call you a cheater/exploiter, and go back to playing whatever they were before.

If you really want to keep botting in the game. At the very least roll it into the main client and create a few dozen pre-loaded scripts, maybe integrate some sort of official way of sharing them using Steam Workshop. That way you can at least sell it as a feature, rather than an unfair advantage that some veteran players have in an already incredibly arcane and unintuitive games that every normie will perceive it as.

This is pretty much spot on, either do something about botting on add it into the default client as a feature + allow the sharing of scripts via workshop, awesome idea.

[kabuto202]

Words

I'm operating from the premise of what Jorbtar might hope to achieve, which is presumably something between not seeing the review score dip into overwhelmingly negative to seeing server populations beyond the "dozens" a few months after a wipe. I couldn't really care less what the rest of the community wants as my ideal HnH experience would be: me, my homies, playing in our little walled garden of a private server, with everyone else excluded.

[Razzbane]

Bro is literally talking about having to wake up in the middle of the night cause your steel crucible is running out of fuel and you can't just add more than 7.5 hours worth of fuel in it.
Stop acting retarded razzbane.

Imagine pretending that steel bot is the only bot in this game

Imagine pretending that catching dragonflies is the problem everyone is complaining about.
You need a bot to catch dragonflies?

Idk i would prefer bots like that over steel bots, but I get why people are complaining about steel mechanic.

[Vraatjuh]

You're operating from this premise that anyone wants to encourage normies to engage with this MMOslop, when in fact:

• most haven players would happily curbstomp normies, shout slurs at them, destroy all their works for shits'n'gigs, jump up and down on their blender-rendered corpses
• no experienced haven player with the "empathy" you condescendingly claim to have, would wish to curse others with investment in such an unpleasant, tedious mess

Make friends with the other crabs or try to escape the bucket. No amount of steam hermits will make the game good.

basically,

my sweaty balls in your cereal

Are we only talking about the loud minority here or the actual 1000's of people who play this game casually?