+Quality from quests is game breaking tbh

[SnuggleSnail]

I don't like shitting on their work, and it's not the type of feedback Jorbtar likes - but overhauling questing is a waste of effort, IMO.

When it comes to optional content they should focus on their strengths, not making the weakest parts of the game marginally better. Just change the numbers until nobody reasonable feels obligated to a lot, similar to credos.

[BruThoL]

Touch the grass fellow snail.
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[Dawidio123]

I don't like shitting on their work, and it's not the type of feedback Jorbtar likes - but overhauling questing is a waste of effort, IMO.

When it comes to optional content they should focus on their strengths, not making the weakest parts of the game marginally better. Just change the numbers until nobody reasonable feels obligated to a lot, similar to credos.

As in completely remove questing for quality, and make lp gains so small ppl would rather yeet themselves off a bridge than quest for it.

[wonder-ass]

doesnt really matter anymore on a wipe cycle of 6 months

[Dawidio123]

doesnt really matter anymore on a wipe cycle of 6 months

This world is supposed to be long-term tho, like after 6 months there is a new world for all the normal ppl, but the few that want to play long-term will get fucked because of the questing.

[Robben_DuMarsch]

doesnt really matter anymore on a wipe cycle of 6 months

This world is supposed to be long-term tho, like after 6 months there is a new world for all the normal ppl, but the few that want to play long-term will get fucked because of the questing.

Isn't it pretty much just accepted that the Haven economy breaks down after a certain point?
Anyone playing has everything they need, botted production of cheese makes FEPs as simple as logging in and spam clicking or running a feast bot, and the only thing there is left to do is grind quality through spiral or quest spam.

[Dawidio123]

doesnt really matter anymore on a wipe cycle of 6 months

This world is supposed to be long-term tho, like after 6 months there is a new world for all the normal ppl, but the few that want to play long-term will get fucked because of the questing.

Isn't it pretty much just accepted that the Haven economy breaks down after a certain point?
Anyone playing has everything they need, botted production of cheese makes FEPs as simple as logging in and spam clicking or running a feast bot, and the only thing there is left to do is grind quality through spiral or quest spam.

Sure, but the quality spiraling being based around questing (a shit rng mechanic, that can also be botted) to raise grey clay/truffles/animal quality is just bad. I feel like nobody really abused this enough for people to realize how bad it can get, like the 900ql seals from the last world are not even close to it.
I don't think hafen has more than 5 people who actually enjoy tryharding questing, and I don't mean questing from time to time, I mean 16h a day grind quests.

Also normal spiraling reaches a softcap after a certain amount of spirals due to the changes made (so it's not like W10 infinite spiraling).

[Pills]

tbh if I had found a good node I might have considered botting it. best we got nearby was +1 to seagulls.

[Luno]

Maybe quality could only increase up to a certain point before the npc stopped upgrading that and started upgrading something else?

[joojoo1975]

Some Quotes from this thread so far. . .

main way to progress industry long-term, anyone who thinks this is a good thing is a fool/has some way to either bot it/abuse it with little effort.

snails just mad because I botted questing in my area

and again one would actively searching for who is willing putting in their time or botting local areas up

Then questing will be what it should be, a niche activity instead of a no-life/bot activity.

Anyone playing has everything they need, botted production of cheese makes FEPs as simple as logging in and spam clicking or running a feast bot, and the only thing there is left to do is grind quality through spiral or quest spam.

tbh if I had found a good node I might have considered botting it





Wow, seems to me, that Questing isn't the biggest problem when you put in a certain aspect, that everyone seems to be doing.

I wonder, how many of these threads there would be, IF J&L actually fixed one of the main things that is Cancer to their game.