one continent pve only

[Sephiron]

I wouldn't mind seeing how it works for one world at least. Maybe don't incentivize staying, though; Should be always accessible to everyone but spawns no localized resources, no dungeons except for small ones (badger set, boreworm hole, wolf lair and fox hole) and quality of manufactured goods should be capped to like 100q so to not explode the economy. You could still get localized resources through trading, and you can go out and finish those dungeons too. The only issue I see with this is people might build invincible safe houses to store all of their valuables, but that could be fun too tbh

[noindyfikator]

This is pvp game where you murder sprucecaps and repeat this process every world. End of the story

[Valgar]

Do I really have to spell it out for you? My point is this: What do you do on a non-PvP server when someone:
Starts building a village idol to claim the land around you;
Takes ten alts to block the exit of your palisade gate;
Builds a palisade around your claim;
Plants a tight forest all around you, or conversely, cuts down all the trees around you;
Simply stands in your way;
Runs away with the carcass of the animal you just killed; or
Just decides to settle down next to you while you don't like him?
These, and many other conceivable actions, are far easier ways to grief people than is PvP, and PvP is the only thing that keeps them somewhat in check. Therefore, removing PvP results not in less griefing, but in more.

In case it's not obvious, I'm not denying that some people just want to live in peace, and I don't think it would be a bad thing if they could do that. But removing PvP does not result in that.

But things evolved since this message was writen.

Starts building a village idol to claim the land around you --> You can bash claims freely when they are fresh
Takes ten alts to block the exit of your palisade gate --> Ok this point is annoying, possibly make a PVE server only open to subscribers. Up to you to pay for 10 alts to bully others.
Builds a palisade around your claim --> Same shit as before, can be bashed during 3 days.
Plants a tight forest all around you, or conversely, cuts down all the trees around you --> Honestly who cares ? A possible Legacy problem.
Simply stands in your way --> Same, who cares ?
Runs away with the carcass of the animal you just killed --> Lol
Just decides to settle down next to you while you don't like him? --> How you can't like him, cause you never speak to anyone on H&H


So for now I think this list should be reviewed by Loftar to be up to date with W16 standarts.
Not to mention every problem to come could be solved with a moderation team in game (if earning enough cash with subscription = more employees on H&H).

The whole server should be PvE not only a continent or PvPers will just run on PvP continent to get stuff then come back in PvE to secure the stuff.
Or once you step on the PvP continent you're locked there for some IRL days. And stuff coming from PvP are locked there something like this.

And to those who says this game is made to be PVP, nope it is not, cause broken updates are a mascarade to the competition and such things shouldn't exist on a PVP version.

[loleznub]

The moment this happens I'll be starting a VM and having a ton of alts stand in front of any base I can find gate, +1 lets do it. Why go through with sieging for days to destroy a base / replace locks when you can instead spend a hour to completely box anyone in!!!

[Valgar]

The moment this happens I'll be starting a VM and having a ton of alts stand in front of any base I can find gate, +1 lets do it. Why go through with sieging for days to destroy a base / replace locks when you can instead spend a hour to completely box anyone in!!!

You'll so pay a ton of subscriptions, making the devs riches and allowing them to hire a moderation team, your dedication is appreciated.
With a moderation team the whole game will be purged from that (PvE and PvP).
The idea here is to debate on what a possible PVE version could be and not what a minority of retarded griefers could do before being banned.

[mulamishne]

-1, not interested in having an entire world flop on trying something like this.

Also on the technical side of things, defining a continent seems like ass these days, I remember when they decided to make quests work via continent, then made them contiguous and massive.

[WormPL87]

I've played Wurm Online on PvE server and people can and will be assholes skirting around the 'no pvp' rule by baiting animals into you, stealing your hunted game, setting blockades etc. - that's why it has game admins that teleport and resolve such issues - H&H doesn't have that, it's just Jorb and Loftar very rarely intervening in extreme cases, and I doubt they'd be willing to babysit a bunch of farmville players to not grief each other.

[joojoo1975]

stuff

The moment this happens I'll be starting a VM and having a ton of alts stand in front of any base I can find gate, +1 lets do it. Why go through with sieging for days to destroy a base / replace locks when you can instead spend a hour to completely box anyone in!!!

I suggest you all re read my reply on this very thing. A lot of things are negated with personal or village claims

[AriZona]

So ever since I can remember I been watching the forums and in one form or another people constantly asking about some way to not have pvp enabled.

How about making the main spawning continent pve only. Maybe you can do this with a NPC realm that one of it's buffs is the fact you cannot enable or use criminal acts on this continent. And it would only affect this continent.
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+1 (if any reasonable solution to this does exist...)

Alternative: Chars without range/murder skills do not die in PVP, and auto-hearth back to their fire the same instance they got KO'ed.

[The_Lich_King]

Honestly i am completely fine with this as long as realms and village claims HAVE to be made on the PVP continent.

That way factions and groups that want to be competitive in the qaulity grind and marketplace have to run the risk but the hermits are protected. It'd even be cool to see PVE players have to risk leaving for the PVP continent to go to marketplaces for up to date goods if they want them. Likewise i'd limit the mine levels to either level 4 or level 5 on the PVE continent. This wil have 0 impact on the solo hermit or players that want to play peacefully and is mainly to reinforce that if you want to be competitive on the global stage you have to fight it out with the other competitors.