Sorry if this doesn't belong here but I thought it didn't fit anywhere else.
I reported this "exploit" 3 times. No responses over time. So I guess it's legit? Maybe it's not on the list of priorities considering it's more of social engineering than an exploit.
I've already showed a few people. It's only a matter of time before word gets out and people start abusing it. Anyways I just thought it was a cool exploit and felt like sharing.
In theory this works on anyone with a barter stand, but is much easier to pull off in your own village. I have in fact been successful with it 3 times, but I was nice enough to admit to testing it and returned the stolen items.
Basically all you need is:
-trespassing on the victims claim(not necessarily. I could have sworn it worked once without trespassing, but was unable to recreate the circumstances)
-"renting" a barter stand. (Acquiring the red/green hands from your victim)
This allows you to walk into the victims claim, drop the hand in one of their cupboards and buy everything remotely. Thus bypassing theft and villager. In a village environment where trespassing is generally enabled on eachothers' claims, this is highly abusable. One can also imagine this could be abused by convincing a trading post to lend you one of their stands, and trespassing to access the stand, etc... Not very likely, but very possible.
In the case of my village, we were only permitted one stand per person(retarded), so that made renting a stand a viable excuse.
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shadyg0d
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How to prank village members(exploit)
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Granger
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Re: How to prank village members
So your point is that you can work around the visitor debuff from the pclaim this way?
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shadyg0d
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Re: How to prank village members
Yes. You could potentially steal someones most valuable items using a game mechanic nobody would ever anticipate. Completely bypasses theft/visitor which people assume is keeping them safe.Granger wrote:So your point is that you can work around the visitor debuff from the pclaim this way?
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MagicManICT
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Re: How to prank village members
I'd call it purely social engineering. I wouldn't give a stranger on the street my bank card and PIN number. I certainly wouldn't do such a thing here with my 'valuable' barter stand goods.
Maybe there is something that can be done in code to stop this application of the game mechanic, but as is I don't see an exploit in your description.
Maybe there is something that can be done in code to stop this application of the game mechanic, but as is I don't see an exploit in your description.
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Ysh
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Re: How to prank village members
Exploit or not, I think game mechanic should try to be with intuition.MagicManICT wrote:I'd call it purely social engineering. I wouldn't give a stranger on the street my bank card and PIN number. I certainly wouldn't do such a thing here with my 'valuable' barter stand goods.
Maybe there is something that can be done in code to stop this application of the game mechanic, but as is I don't see an exploit in your description.
I have become victory of very nice Jordan Coles Contest! Enjoy my winning submit here if it pleasures you.Kaios wrote:Spice Girls are integral to understanding Ysh's thought process when communicating, duly noted.
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Granger
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Re: How to prank village members
As far as I got it it boils down to being able to add hands to a container on a claim and then transfer out the contents of that container without theft.MagicManICT wrote:I'd call it purely social engineering. I wouldn't give a stranger on the street my bank card and PIN number. I certainly wouldn't do such a thing here with my 'valuable' barter stand goods.
Maybe there is something that can be done in code to stop this application of the game mechanic, but as is I don't see an exploit in your description.
This would be IMHO quite serious.
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Ysh
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Re: How to prank village members
This is how I am understands it, yes. Being able to ''sell'' item from stand that you do not have theft permission to take in first place. Seems to be flaw in system to me.Granger wrote:As far as I got it it boils down to being able to add hands to a container on a claim and then transfer out the contents of that container without theft.MagicManICT wrote:I'd call it purely social engineering. I wouldn't give a stranger on the street my bank card and PIN number. I certainly wouldn't do such a thing here with my 'valuable' barter stand goods.
Maybe there is something that can be done in code to stop this application of the game mechanic, but as is I don't see an exploit in your description.
This would be IMHO quite serious.
I have become victory of very nice Jordan Coles Contest! Enjoy my winning submit here if it pleasures you.Kaios wrote:Spice Girls are integral to understanding Ysh's thought process when communicating, duly noted.
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shadyg0d
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Re: How to prank village members
I see what you're saying, and I think the devs probably thought the same thing. The difference is you know that you are putting yourself at risk by giving out your bank card and PIN. By lending a barter stand to somebody you wouldn't assume they were trying to steal unless they acted shady to begin with.MagicManICT wrote:I'd call it purely social engineering. I wouldn't give a stranger on the street my bank card and PIN number. I certainly wouldn't do such a thing here with my 'valuable' barter stand goods.
Maybe there is something that can be done in code to stop this application of the game mechanic, but as is I don't see an exploit in your description.
Anyways I'm glad to see some other people see this as an issue.
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shadyg0d
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Re: How to prank village members
Now just keep in mind it does not work with your own barter stand. I tested it it and it does indeed detect theft if you use your own stand. That is the one thing that makes it less serious and possibly not worth fixing.Granger wrote:As far as I got it it boils down to being able to add hands to a container on a claim and then transfer out the contents of that container without theft.MagicManICT wrote:I'd call it purely social engineering. I wouldn't give a stranger on the street my bank card and PIN number. I certainly wouldn't do such a thing here with my 'valuable' barter stand goods.
Maybe there is something that can be done in code to stop this application of the game mechanic, but as is I don't see an exploit in your description.
This would be IMHO quite serious.
Still I think it should be fixed considering I used it to steal from people who had no idea what I was trying. If anything I'd consider it an exploit that requires social engineering. It's still an exploit IMO
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Granger
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Re: How to prank village members
Did you test it with your stand and 3rd party character acting as buyer?shadyg0d wrote:Now just keep in mind it does not work with your own barter stand. I tested it it and it does indeed detect theft if you use your own stand.
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