unarmed # to kill a bear toe to toe?

[jpublic]

so, we just lost our hunter(he quit)

and we're thinking about making a village hunter, that is, if my stats are not close enough?

at this time I got 90 unarmed 40 str and 61 agi and 70 con

don't plan to go melee, so pure unarmed what stats I wll need to be able to go toe to toe with it.



We're landlocked as a village so rather/safer to walk around the land then haul a boat a grid to get nearest river.

[Ozzy123]

with a horse your stats are even more than enough

[jpublic]

would you mind pm\ing me or explaining, I don't know combat all that well, but i'm more than willing to listen, none of us like the idea of a village hunter.

[Juukin]

With 150ish UA it's doable but you will take damage in the process. Also you'll have to be careful and remove openings that are past the point of about 30% so you don't take too much damage, since you're lacking con.

Until then, use ranged I guess.

[jpublic]

when I was taming I would just wade in and spam punch on the auroach or mouflon, Juukin, or any other, do you have any idea on what unarmed # I would need to use the spam tactic against the bear?

or is that impossible

[Saergof]

Your practical solution is bear-wrestling from a boat. Use it as with any other animal which does not have ranged attacks: sit on a boat in deep water, provoke a bear, punch him until he scratch your openings somewhat, then retreat back to the deep water, restore your defences and return to the combat. It must be performed on vast shallows or with strategically placed boats to block the bear when he will decide to run away, with punching as your main attack you may have not enough time to finish him when he will turn his back.

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As for the fair battle in the open field: NO. Not a single chance to even scrawniest q60 bear.

Assuming your gear is not top-tier, given stats are not nearly enough to fight with a bear in the open field hand-to-hand and without a decent horse. If you plan to go wrestling, it's even worse. Actually, even with a horse but without at least some combat experience (say, riding a horse in dense forest), an encounter with a bear will be extremely dangerous situation which may result in death.

what unarmed # I would need to use the spam tactic against the bear?

The problem with a bear is that he will not use a spam tactic against you. The beast accumulate initiative points quickly and then use them for devastating attacks, high-q bear can give you 4 openings ALL AT ONCE to 60%, based roughly on your stats. After that you'll start to receive at least 80 dmg with each hit unless you not elaborate your combat behaviour immediately from punch-spam to something that can restore your defences, starting from effective defensive moves/initiative management, ending with using the terrain advantage, like using cliffs or caves to buy time.

I do not know which UC will be sufficient to punch a bear without relying on more complex combat moves. I don't think 250 is enough. The damn beast was buffed up in one of the recent updates, and that was after the combat system change, when the combat with wild animals became generally harder. And even before that bear was not exactly the weakest dweller of the forest.

[chocolaterain]

I can tell you out of hard learned experience that even with stats in the mid hundreds it's difficult to 1 v 1 a bear unless you have great gear and absolutely know what you're doing. Just kill them out of a boat, it is much easier that way. If you step out of a boat before shooting them with your bow, they will not run away from you. Instantly run back to your boat, de-aggro, get back to the bear, shoot him etc. etc.

Note that you can use a cart to get a boat to the river quickly. It will be a lot quicker if your strength is on the lower side.

The only alternative is not killing bears tbh.

[Ozzy123]

I sent the guy a vid showing extacly what2do but I guess he is looking for some puch-spam tactics xD This is Haven&Hearth not some casual mmorpg shit m8

[shubla]

puch-spam tactics

They work if you got enough stats

[Ozzy123]

well m8 If I wanted to punch-spam a bear with my stats I'd still get some damage from it probably