It doesn't sound fair if true
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Kamekono
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Village vs Personal claim
I'm a hermit with personal claim. Today a player said me I lose my personal claim if a village extends over me. Is true? I lose claim or access? What can they do?
It doesn't sound fair if true
It doesn't sound fair if true
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vatas
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
Village claim can only remove p-claim when it's older than the p-claim, or when it has reached 90% of the p-claim's age.
Also the effective age of v-claim is counted based on the extension, so you can't have village claim mature some distance away and then make tendril to p-claim.
Devs never meant "Revoke the Priviledge" to be used "offensively" thus these changes when w8 launched.
Also the effective age of v-claim is counted based on the extension, so you can't have village claim mature some distance away and then make tendril to p-claim.
Devs never meant "Revoke the Priviledge" to be used "offensively" thus these changes when w8 launched.
Haven and Hearth Wiki (Maintained by volunteers - test/verify when practical. Forum thread
Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)
Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)
Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
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Kamekono
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
How does the 90% works? Claim active for about a month. Can they remove it in 27 days? After it, is the claim safe if is inside a palisade, if they can't reach it? Or can they do it from outside? Does village need to cover the entire claim, or just a part of it to remove?vatas wrote:Village claim can only remove p-claim when it's older than the p-claim, or when it has reached 90% of the p-claim's age.
Also the effective age of v-claim is counted based on the extension, so you can't have village claim mature some distance away and then make tendril to p-claim.
Devs never meant "Revoke the Priviledge" to be used "offensively" thus these changes when w8 launched.
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Sevenless
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
Important note: With 10 CHA, and 10 Lore, you only need to earn 5k LP per *day* to maintain a village. Even as a hermit, dropping a village on your house is a smart idea.
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shubla
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
Don't build too close to other villages so that they don't expand into your place. Also don't build in places that may be of interest to somebody, I don't think that there are many if any cases of villages being expanded into pclaims without one of the preceding happening.

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vatas
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
If your claim has been active for a month, and hostile village would drop a Banner to overlap with oyur claim right now, they'd need to wait 9 months to be able to revoke.Kamekono wrote:How does the 90% works? Claim active for about a month. Can they remove it in 27 days? After it, is the claim safe if is inside a palisade, if they can't reach it? Or can they do it from outside? Does village need to cover the entire claim, or just a part of it to remove?vatas wrote:Village claim can only remove p-claim when it's older than the p-claim, or when it has reached 90% of the p-claim's age.
Also the effective age of v-claim is counted based on the extension, so you can't have village claim mature some distance away and then make tendril to p-claim.
Devs never meant "Revoke the Priviledge" to be used "offensively" thus these changes when w8 launched.
The 90% thing was implemented as a compromise to enable people to (eventually) get rid of "troll claims" people might drop on area they see a village being built on.
Haven and Hearth Wiki (Maintained by volunteers - test/verify when practical. Forum thread
Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)
Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)
Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
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Kamekono
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
Thank you for replies. I think I'm safe.
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VDZ
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
Why? Prior to w13, a village was required for a Sublime Portico. Now that the Charterstone and Sublime Portico have been removed, and you can access thingwalls without having a village, what benefit is there still to having a village over your claim?Sevenless wrote:Important note: With 10 CHA, and 10 Lore, you only need to earn 5k LP per *day* to maintain a village. Even as a hermit, dropping a village on your house is a smart idea.
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meus
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
Because it's easier to "feed" the village 101*101 than a claim 101*101.
You can use multiple characters sharing it, or just one with higher CHA*LORE, to accumulate more % authority for the village than you could % influence for a claim.
Also, just to build it, one would need to slap 101*101*10 ~ 100k LP just for the claim of same size, which is a bit steep early game (e.g. week 1). For the village you can share the cost of ~50k as one for Lawspeaking (20k) and share 30k for founding the village - you'll have it much faster. A small claim e.g. 10*10 is nice until you get your leather/bones/metal for the idol, but not much useful later.
There are also the benefits of having a village, apart from just the LP acrobatics.
You can use multiple characters sharing it, or just one with higher CHA*LORE, to accumulate more % authority for the village than you could % influence for a claim.
Also, just to build it, one would need to slap 101*101*10 ~ 100k LP just for the claim of same size, which is a bit steep early game (e.g. week 1). For the village you can share the cost of ~50k as one for Lawspeaking (20k) and share 30k for founding the village - you'll have it much faster. A small claim e.g. 10*10 is nice until you get your leather/bones/metal for the idol, but not much useful later.
There are also the benefits of having a village, apart from just the LP acrobatics.
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VDZ
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Re: Village vs Personal claim
What I mean to ask is, what benefits does a village still hold for a hermit in W13 other than ease of maintenance?meus wrote:There are also the benefits of having a village, apart from just the LP acrobatics.